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02-11-2012, 14:11
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Originally Posted by Polypro
He outed (with the help of the SOA) and is smearing (as in this is an ongoing thing with him) an AD SF NCO, for a grand total of 3 posts in two days...the result of which was basically deferring to Meyer and staying out of it. It's friggen BS. A friggen civilian comes after a BROTHER for nothing (please, find me something that warrants this...I see nothing but the worry about some individuals wallets) and It pisses me off. It doubly pisses me off that his own stooges brought the issue to the forefront in the first place. It sure as heck better piss off every single person that was in any SOF unit in the history of this country. Thanks for bringing this issue up over here.
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Excellent post Polypro, it sums up perfectly exactly how I feel. An entire 3 friggin post ending with acquiescence!!!! WTF? I would like to hear, if nothing else, an explanation from Mr. Giduck, Anderson, Meyer, SOA and other Giduck supporters why this active duty soldier and Silver Star recipient has been attacked!
If there is a one of us, that can either through action OR inaction support the attack and outing of the good MSG, then I have to, without hesitation or doubt, question the individuals motive and MORE SO their INTEGRITY. (or lack thereof)
Thanks to the Team Sgt and Mr. Guy for bringing the issue up here and stepping into the fray.
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02-11-2012, 16:10
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I want to make a tiny edit if I may:
(with the help of certain individuals in the SOA)
That's an important distinction.
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02-11-2012, 16:53
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I want to make a tiny edit if I may:
(with the help of certain individuals in the SOA)
That's an important distinction.
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Concur 100%, very important distinction.
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02-12-2012, 00:01
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I remember in April 2010 when I saw giduck on the show "Weaponology" when in the Spetsnaz episode I was a little surprised that how could someone who doesn't seem to have any SF/SOF experience know more about the Spetsnaz than people of the likes of Larry Vickers,other QP's who were also part of the show and bearing in mind that these people who served had more use gaining intel on the Spetsnaz than giduck himself.I tried searching for him but it was 2 years back and there wasn't attention paid to John Giduck's claims.
I also very much liked the point that Team Sergeant Sir pointed out that how could an American who claims he is a QP train with the Spetsnaz,their so called anti-SEAL teams at the height of the cold war when the Soviets were well aware of what was happening in A'stan.
It is a great great job that the QP's on professionalsoldiers.com and SOCNET are doing exposing such people.
A question that comes to my mind when such posers claiming to be ex-QP's,SEALs go to teach courses to LE's,SWAT etc.is that don't these organisations ask for valid proof/credentials that they have served in the units they claim?
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02-12-2012, 05:37
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A question that comes to my mind when such posers claiming to be ex-QP's,SEALs go to teach courses to LE's,SWAT etc.is that don't these organisations ask for valid proof/credentials that they have served in the units they claim?
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Non-military organizations that contract education are working off word-of-mouth advertizing.
In that they ask other LEO/LE outfits who they have used and were pleased with. They also go to conferences where people like Giduck present topics and them turn around and hawk their education and/or services.
The process does not always lend itself to scrutinizing credentials.
William G Hillar is a classic example of a poser that nobody questioned, until he failed the sniff test by people with better noses..
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02-12-2012, 10:34
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A question that comes to my mind when such posers claiming to be ex-QP's,SEALs go to teach courses to LE's,SWAT etc.is that don't these organisations ask for valid proof/credentials that they have served in the units they claim?
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Read the entire William G. Hillar thread, then ask that question again.
We have repeatedly exposed "Special Operations, Special Forces, & Green Beret Frauds" that work for local, state and federal law enforcement not to mention DHS, FBI, DOD etc..
They all have one thing in common, not one agency or individual has checked their background or credentials.
The terror threat does not necessarily need to come from the outside. These jokers are routinely penetrating all local state and federal agencies as they please by using only "word of mouth". It's amusing when they do so in Hollywood, it's not when they are paid by tax dollars to give counter-terrorism talks to our nations law enforcement agencies.
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02-12-2012, 10:49
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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
Read the entire William G. Hillar thread, then ask that question again.
We have repeatedly exposed "Special Operations, Special Forces, & Green Beret Frauds" that work for local, state and federal law enforcement not to mention DHS, FBI, DOD etc..
They all have one thing in common, not one agency or individual has checked their background or credentials.
The terror threat does not necessarily need to come from the outside. These jokers are routinely penetrating all local state and federal agencies as they please by using only "word of mouth". It's amusing when they do so in Hollywood, it's not when they are paid by tax dollars to give counter-terrorism talks to our nations law enforcement agencies.
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02-12-2012, 11:29
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I can't believe this guy dosen't know when to back down, he's made a 'socnetlies' website (google for it because I wouldn't even post a link to it) He has outed a serving SGT and called out a Padre, this guy has no morals.
I'm a member of Socnet and a member of PS.com, I wouldn't care to be on the bad side of either, Giduck you've got the attention of both at the same time, are you using a radar reflector to get noticed?
I spilled my coffee when he blaimed SOCNET for burning a matress outside his house, Mr Giduck you are dealing with US SF and LE both Ret. and serving - NOT the KKK.
I'm far enough away being from the UK but if I ever had PS.com and SOCNET after me I'd move to Mars.
Back to my lane now but I've followed this since it started so had to vent.
Stay safe.
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02-15-2012, 09:45
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Like I said below...
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Now, before et al., `et alii' , `et aliae' or `et alia' get their panties in a twist and want to level some type of lawsuit against me and me alone since; I'm the one posted this message, well....I won't be hard to find if, you can move in a hostile environment. 
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Now I want to this "crystal" clear for John Giduck and those that support him:
" I'm NOT hiding!"
Stay safe,
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02-17-2012, 12:46
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Chester P D commissioner Joe Bail
The sheeple are catching on and they are digging deep.
Seems Chester Police Department commissioner Joe Bail will soon be taking some heat for his relationship with John Giduck. I do find it amusing that a small city in Pennsylvania requires an "International Terrorism Consultant" for their police department.
I can't wait for an investigative journalist from Pennsylvania get a hold of this story......
Warning: Do not read the comments on this blog while drinking coffee!!!!! (You have been warned)
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/ches...FCCK7V4JUHODU0
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02-17-2012, 16:33
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OPPs!!
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02-19-2012, 10:49
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And it continues.....
And don't think for a second I'll back down from John Giduck outing a AD SF guy!
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SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 18, 2012
GIDUCK—ONE MORE TIME
Apparently an honest disagreement and differences of opinion are out of the question when it comes to John Giduck or his supporters. For a man who nearly breaks his arm patting himself on the back for being the defender of truth, justice, and the American way, he has a funny way of showing it.
I have written a number of critiques of Giduck’s writings on the shootings at Virginia Tech. My critiques have been picked up and endorsed by several blogs. Indeed, the readership of my blog has nearly tripled since I posted the Giduck articles. Apparently my words have deeply upset Giduck or his followers.
Rather than challenge my assertions or show where I am wrong, he, or one of his fans, decided to deface my Facebook page by posting a picture of the cover of his book, “Shooter Down,” blocking and covering most of the page. The book cover has now been taken down.
Stop to think of what that action was—at minimum it was harassment, at worst it was a threat because of the title of the book. If Giduck, or his minions, cannot take an honest disagreement and engage in an intellectual dialog about that disagreement, do we really want him consulting about school shootings? When someone comes unglued because his or her ideas are challenged, it is very disturbing.
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02-27-2012, 19:46
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Giduck must be the real deal, I cannot believe he's posted the highly classified "Russian Combat Shovel Training" on YouTube!!!!!
That has got to be one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. The only thing more stupid are the individuals receiving the "Combat Shovel" training.
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02-28-2012, 00:17
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That has got to be one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. The only thing more stupid are the individuals receiving the "Combat Shovel" training.
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