09-20-2004, 15:31
|
#1
|
|
Quiet Professional
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: LA
Posts: 1,653
|
Intelligence Czar
Who's it going to be?
If POTUS is re-elected, I'm going with Rudy.
__________________
Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.
Still want to quit?
|
|
NousDefionsDoc is offline
|
|
|
09-20-2004, 15:45
|
#2
|
|
Consigliere
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Free Pineland (at last)
Posts: 8,841
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by NousDefionsDoc
Who's it going to be?
If POTUS is re-elected, I'm going with Rudy.
|
If the nomination were made BEFORE the election, I'd agree.
I suspect he'll nominate Porter Goss to move up, assuming he gets confirmed at CIA first.
|
|
Roguish Lawyer is offline
|
|
|
09-20-2004, 15:51
|
#3
|
|
Quiet Professional
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: LA
Posts: 1,653
|
Never happen. Wanna bet? 
__________________
Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.
Still want to quit?
|
|
NousDefionsDoc is offline
|
|
|
09-20-2004, 15:57
|
#4
|
|
Consigliere
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Free Pineland (at last)
Posts: 8,841
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by NousDefionsDoc
Never happen. Wanna bet? |
Nah, I don't have a strong view on it. But what are you talking about, the Czar nominee or Goss getting confirmed at CIA? I'd be surprised if Goss doesn't get that.
|
|
Roguish Lawyer is offline
|
|
|
09-20-2004, 15:59
|
#5
|
|
Area Commander
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: MD
Posts: 1,012
|
What do you all consider essential qualifications for the position?
|
|
lrd is offline
|
|
|
09-20-2004, 16:02
|
#6
|
|
Quiet Professional
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: LA
Posts: 1,653
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer
Nah, I don't have a strong view on it. But what are you talking about, the Czar nominee or Goss getting confirmed at CIA? I'd be surprised if Goss doesn't get that.
|
Goss, will get confirmed at the Agency, but he'll never go any higher because they are already talking about his politics. The czar is supposed to have budget authority, so it will be a fight like naming a new SCOTUS Justice. They wouldn't dare vote against Saint Rudy, they'd lose NY.
__________________
Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.
Still want to quit?
|
|
NousDefionsDoc is offline
|
|
|
09-20-2004, 16:06
|
#7
|
|
Quiet Professional
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: LA
Posts: 1,653
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by lrd
What do you all consider essential qualifications for the position?
|
Confirmable in Congress.
A deft politician - has to bring together very unlike-minded groups.
Hard - not afraid to ruffle some feathers.
Trustworthy - He should have unprecedented power if they follow the plan.
Experience - running a large organization with turf wars. Doling out funds according to needs etc.
__________________
Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.
Still want to quit?
|
|
NousDefionsDoc is offline
|
|
|
09-20-2004, 16:06
|
#8
|
|
Consigliere
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Free Pineland (at last)
Posts: 8,841
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by lrd
What do you all consider essential qualifications for the position?
|
1. Meaningful prior experience in this or a closely related field. Ideally, I'd want someone like Cofer Black.
2. Politico-bureaucratic skill. Someone who can win the battles within the beltway.
3. Correct political views regarding intelligence matters. Commitment to HUMINT, for example.
|
|
Roguish Lawyer is offline
|
|
|
09-20-2004, 16:08
|
#9
|
|
Consigliere
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Free Pineland (at last)
Posts: 8,841
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by NousDefionsDoc
Confirmable in Congress.
A deft politician - has to bring together very unlike-minded groups.
Hard - not afraid to ruffle some feathers.
Trustworthy - He should have unprecedented power if they follow the plan.
Experience - running a large organization with turf wars. Doling out funds according to needs etc.
|
I like these too.
But I wouldn't let the Dems stop me from nominating the right guy for the job.
|
|
Roguish Lawyer is offline
|
|
|
09-20-2004, 16:13
|
#10
|
|
Quiet Professional
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: LA
Posts: 1,653
|
Cofer Black would piss everybody off the first day. He'd tell them all exactly what he thinks of them.
__________________
Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.
Still want to quit?
|
|
NousDefionsDoc is offline
|
|
|
09-20-2004, 16:33
|
#11
|
|
JAWBREAKER
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Gulf coast
Posts: 1,906
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by NousDefionsDoc
Cofer Black would piss everybody off the first day. He'd tell them all exactly what he thinks of them.
|
How come I wondered if this was the real name of The Reaper or the Team Sergeant when I read that???   LOL
Hijack over... nothing to see here.... Back to thread... 
|
|
Sacamuelas is offline
|
|
|
09-20-2004, 16:56
|
#12
|
|
Consigliere
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Free Pineland (at last)
Posts: 8,841
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by NousDefionsDoc
Cofer Black would piss everybody off the first day. He'd tell them all exactly what he thinks of them.
|
My kind of guy! LOL
I'm just talking about experience, and he is a good example, I think.
|
|
Roguish Lawyer is offline
|
|
|
09-20-2004, 18:00
|
#13
|
|
Quiet Professional
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Free Pineland
Posts: 24,822
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by NousDefionsDoc
Cofer Black would piss everybody off the first day. He'd tell them all exactly what he thinks of them.
|
If he had access to the files, as Hoover was reputed to, he could do that and confirmation would still be a breeze.
Of course, when your elected Representatives are Kennedy, Kerry, Frank, and Dukakis, not sure what you could reveal about them that would hurt them more than their own actions have.
TR
__________________
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat." - President Theodore Roosevelt, 1910
De Oppresso Liber 01/20/2025
|
|
The Reaper is offline
|
|
|
09-21-2004, 07:32
|
#14
|
|
Area Commander
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Buckingham, Pa.
Posts: 1,746
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by NousDefionsDoc
Confirmable in Congress.
A deft politician - has to bring together very unlike-minded groups.
Hard - not afraid to ruffle some feathers.
Trustworthy - He should have unprecedented power if they follow the plan.
Experience - running a large organization with turf wars. Doling out funds according to needs etc.
|
Another name lurking behind the glamor names is Gov. Frank Keating. Before becoming governor of Oklahoma Keating was a career FBI agent so one could say that he is a deft politician, trustworthy, hard and has experience running a large organization. Additionally he is very close to the President and has his complete trust. I don't know if he is "sexy" enough of a pick but he does have the background to be successful.
|
|
rubberneck is offline
|
|
|
09-21-2004, 10:53
|
#15
|
|
Quiet Professional
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: LA
Posts: 1,653
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by rubberneck
Another name lurking behind the glamor names is Gov. Frank Keating. Before becoming governor of Oklahoma Keating was a career FBI agent so one could say that he is a deft politician, trustworthy, hard and has experience running a large organization. Additionally he is very close to the President and has his complete trust. I don't know if he is "sexy" enough of a pick but he does have the background to be successful.
|
Negative. "Career FBI", the military and Agency will never stand for it and neither will I. Treating terrorism as a legal issue is partly what got us where we are today, remember Slick didn't take UBL because they couldn't build a case? Plus, a lot of people hate the AG and the conspiracy theorists would have a field day with "This is Ashcroft's subtle way of further circumventing the Constitution, blah, blah.". Next.
__________________
Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.
Still want to quit?
|
|
NousDefionsDoc is offline
|
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 17:44.
|
|
|
Linear Mode
