06-21-2011, 19:07
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Pledge of Allegiance, NBC Apology
From a forwarded email:
Chris McCloskey - V.P., Communications
NBC Sports
(212) 664-5598
christopher.mccloskey@nbcuni.com
Mr. McCloskey,
I couldn't believe my ears when I heard the recording of the Pledge of Allegiance from the U.S.Open, leaving out the words "under God".
I'm guessing you wouldn't condone something so assuming, unpatriotic and insulting...you're probably smarter than that...probably.
However, you being in charge, the buck stops with you. Leaving out these words was not inadvertent or accidental; it was full of purpose.
Can you tell me exactly what purpose the editor of this piece had in mind ?
I'm BCC'ing 300 people with this e-mail, many being Veterans of military service to our country. I'm sure they too will be interested in the explanation.
Don Dignan
D/2/16, 1st Inf Div
1967-68
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http://www.examiner.com/conservative...-out-of-pledge
On Sunday, NBC removed the words "under God" from a reading of the Pledge of Allegiance at the opening of the U.S. Open Golf Championship.
Newsbusters' Noel Sheppard writes the network omitted the phrase "twice during the show's introduction."
Later in the broadcast, NBC apologized for the omission, but as Newsbusters' Mark Finkelstein reports, the network "compounded one omission with another," by failing to mention the phrase they left out: "under God."
According to Finkelstein, NBC's apology went as follows:
NBC ANNOUNCER: We began our coverage of this final round just about three hours ago. When we did, it was our intent to begin our coverage of this US Open championship wiht a feature that captured the patriotism of our national championship, held in our nation's capital for the third time. Regrettably, a portion of the Pledge of Allegiance that was in that feature was edited out. It was not done to upset anyone, and we'd like to apologize to those of you who were offended by it.
Continue reading on Examiner.com NBC apologizes for leaving ’under God’ out of Pledge - Spokane Conservative | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/conservative...#ixzz1Pxk76S4N
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06-21-2011, 19:39
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Meh...IMO the "under God" verbiage should never have been "added" to the Pledge of Allegience in the first place.
However, YMMV...and so it goes...
Richard 
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06-21-2011, 19:43
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Originally Posted by Richard
Meh...IMO the "under God" verbiage should never have been "added" to the Pledge of Allegience in the first place.
However, YMMV...and so it goes...
Richard
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06-21-2011, 20:53
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I'm with ya on that one Richard.
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06-21-2011, 21:02
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History
I apologize from the start if this is out of place for me to write.
Our nation was found with God as our foundation. 235 years later, our leaders do not believe in a foundation other then our own power and strength. However, that custom started a long time ago. Possibly people as smart as our politicians do not learn from history?
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06-21-2011, 22:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard
Meh...IMO the "under God" verbiage should never have been "added" to the Pledge of Allegience in the first place.
However, YMMV...and so it goes...
Richard
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Why not? Our country was founded on Christian principals...
I’ll quote The Declaration of Independence:
"...We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
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06-21-2011, 22:57
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Making changes, which time???
Official versions
1892 - "I pledge allegiance to my flag and the republic for which it stands: one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all."
1892 to 1923 - "I pledge allegiance to my flag and to the republic for which it stands: one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all."
1923 to 1924 - "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States and to the republic for which it stands: one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all."
1924 to 1954 - "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands; one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all."
1954 to Present - "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
The Pledge of Allegiance of the United States is an oath of loyalty to the national flag and the Republic of the United States of America, originally composed by Francis Bellamy in 1892 and formally adopted by Congress as the national pledge in 1942. The Pledge has been modified four times since its composition, with the most recent change adding the words "under God" in 1954. Congressional sessions open with the recital of the Pledge, as do government meetings at local levels, meetings held by the National Exchange Club, Knights of Columbus, Royal Rangers, Boy Scouts of America, Girl Scouts of the USA, Fraternal Order of Eagles, Freemasons, Lions Club, Rotary Club, Toastmasters International and their concordant bodies, as well as other organizations.
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I'm all in favor of making changes during periods in which change made sense or as required because the poitical landscape has changed. In 1954, I suspect it had alot to do with Russia/CCCP, America, the cold war, communism, McCarthy, etc.
If it is to change again, let's please move forward, not backwards. "God", "...no God", it is what it is. As for me, I'm just grateful we are still a country.
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06-21-2011, 23:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BRAVO-SMASH
Why not? Our country was founded on Christian principals...
I’ll quote The Declaration of Independence:
"...We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
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Would Immanuel Kant agree that the purpose of the Enlightenment was to codify for all time religious principles? << LINK>>
If the United States was founded on Christian principles, then how does one square some of the decidedly materialistic components of the United States Constitution and the ensuing debates over its ratification?
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06-22-2011, 04:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BRAVO-SMASH
Why not? Our country was founded on Christian principals...I’ll quote The Declaration of Independence:
"...We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
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Here's a pretty good summary which primarily uses Holmes' 2006 The Faiths of the Founding Fathers (an excellent read) as its source.
The Revolution of Belief: Founding Fathers, Deists, Orthodox Christians, and the Spiritual Context of 18th Century America
http://earlyamericanhistory.net/founding_fathers.htm
Richard
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06-22-2011, 05:14
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Everybody believes in something........
Everyone believes in something - even if it's nothing.
Because nothing is something.
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06-22-2011, 06:42
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The Pledge reminds us of our allegiance to our flag and country.
Its current form includes 'under God'.
Until the powers that be decide to change the wording again, it is what it is.
NBC has no right or authority to edit it.
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06-22-2011, 07:13
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Do you remember when and where the last time you recited the Pledge of Allegiance? I don't!
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06-22-2011, 07:22
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Will this be the next version of the Pledge?
'I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all, born and unborn.'
http://oldtimeislands.org/pledge/pledge.htm
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06-22-2011, 07:42
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Do you remember when and where the last time you recited the Pledge of Allegiance? I don't!
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30 May 2011 - Memorial Day ceremony at DFW National Cemetery.
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“Almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so.” - Robert Heinlein
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06-22-2011, 07:47
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Quote:
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Do you remember when and where the last time you recited the Pledge of Allegiance? I don't!
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Boy Scout meeting last week.
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