Supplements while deployed

[CaseyJones]

This is a little more specific than just the general topic of supplements. I'm currently overseas and am taking the basic lifting supplements that I usually do when I'm home (Creatine, Whey, Glutamine, Vitrix, etc). I ordered a prohormone stack called Trifecta by LG Sciences. If you're familiar with it, it contains Methyl 1-D, Methyl Masterdrol, and Formadrol for a PCT. I was wondering if anyone is familiar with this stack, or has any advice on it. I know its usually meant for the joe back home, and I don't know if it will take too much of a toll on my body out here, rolling out everyday and such. Also, I've had a bad experience with a NO booster while in high school last year, that led to me blacking out and choking myself with a 315 bench. Should I maybe take the 1-D and not the masterdrol? Thanks to everyone who helps me out with this, it's much appreciated.

[spherojon]

I do not think that Creatine is the best idea, it causes dehydration. If you are looking towards SF, they don't allow creatine (I don't think they allow any supplements) at SFAS, and from reading on the forums, it seems to me that bodybuilding does not allow for endurance on long rucks, and that you do not curl your rucksack. As for NO booster, that is a bad bad idea for your heart. Since I do not know your level of lifting, my suggestion would be to read into nutrient timing (PM if you cant find the information). One of the best performance post work out drinks that I have used, and many others is called MHP Dark Matter (http://www.maxperformance.com/mhp/my...hls=1336&id=67).

Methyl 1-d is a testosterone and contains a Prohormone which was banned by the FDA in 2005."Recent studies have concluded that DHEA does not effectively increase testosterone levels and doesn’t produce significant changes in lean body mass, performance or muscle strength. That’s not good for a product claiming the only legal prohormone as its main ingredient."-http://www.supplementcritic.com/methyl-1-d-reviews/
Methyl Masterdrol is an anabolic steroid, and if you just got out of high school, you do not need anabolic steroids or testosterone boosters.

Again, I am not a doctor, but use at your own risk.

If I was you (which you say you are interested in becoming an QP), I would drop the testosterone boosters and creatine. I would read heavily into nutrient timing and pick up Get Selected! for Special Forces. But that's my 2 cents.

[The Reaper]

If you want to be SF, I would stop taking all of that crap while deployed, and work on conditioning yourself the old-fashioned way.

If you keep taking it till you get to SFAS, and see how you feel after several days into it.

But that is just my .02.

TR

[Surgicalcric]

Originally Posted by The Reaper

If you want to be SF, I would stop taking all of that crap while deployed, and work on conditioning yourself the old-fashioned way.

If you keep taking it till you get to SFAS, and see how you feel after several days into it.

Well said Sir.

CJ:

You need to drop all those test enhancing supplements. Condition/train your mind and body. Working out is for guys whose lives revolve around looks; training is for guys whose lives depend on their fitness level.

You need to be strong, tough, and have good overall endurance/work capacity. We dont care how big you are or what you curl.

Google: Bodybuilding-The Worst Thing That Ever Happened To Athletes -Nathan Cragg

[x SF med]

I'm with TR and Crip on this one. Eat right, drink lots of water and train for endurance and strength. Many supplements have side effects you don't want in the field - dehydration as mentioned, crash, and any hormone based supplement can have other physical and psychological effects... there is enough stress on a deployment, or even just in a training mission, why compound it.

Take the supplement crash now, and train through it, you will thank yourself, and your team mates will be able to rely on you in the field.

[SF_BHT]

The only suplements that you need are just what the other QP's said. Get off the artificial stuff and do the old fashioned thing and train.

[99meters]

Originally Posted by CaseyJones

Also, I've had a bad experience with a NO booster while in high school last year, that led to me blacking out and choking myself with a 315 bench.

Assuming you got 1 rep out before you started to choke yourself with the weight...... a 315 bench is pretty good for a HS kid. You are ahead of the game in regards to absolute strength, work on something else. I would go with Surgicalcric's suggestion of work capacity/endurance (you don't need your listed supps for that).

[CaseyJones]

Thanks to all the QPs and everyone for their input .. Alot of it has to do with the fact that my resources here aren't stellar when it comes to improving endurance .. no where to really run or ruck .. so I was set on bulking up and then cutting once i came home again, but it sounds like that may be counterproductive to my overall goal ..

[SF-TX]

Originally Posted by CaseyJones

Alot of it has to do with the fact that my resources here aren't stellar when it comes to improving endurance .. no where to really run or ruck ..

Do jumping jacks, jump rope, aerobics or anything else that keeps your heart rate elevated for a sustained period of time. You are only limited by your creativity in accomplishing your goal.

[orion5]

Casey,

Are you currently in Weston, CT?? I've been through there before - used to live in CT ages ago. You have the Devil's Den Preserve right out your back door - 20 miles of trails that connect up to the 70+ miles of the Saugatuck Valley Trails System. I just took a quick look at the topo map, and while it's certainly not hiking in Colorado, there are several hundred feet of elevation changes around the Saugatuck Reservoir.



o5

[SF-TX]

Orion5,

This is what Casey wrote in his first post on this thread.

Originally Posted by CaseyJones

I'm currently overseas...

[orion5]

My bad....

[Razor]

Originally Posted by CaseyJones

Alot of it has to do with the fact that my resources here aren't stellar when it comes to improving endurance .. no where to really run or ruck...

The 8-count Body Builder...start position...move!

[Dominus_Potior]

Originally Posted by CaseyJones

Thanks to all the QPs and everyone for their input .. Alot of it has to do with the fact that my resources here aren't stellar when it comes to improving endurance .. no where to really run or ruck .. so I was set on bulking up and then cutting once i came home again, but it sounds like that may be counterproductive to my overall goal ..

I am currently in a place where almost no one can do or does PT. But I had to find a way to get in shape. I ordered one of those Ultimate Sandbags and modified the workouts on the SORB site to include some treadmill running. Hell I took a flight to another FOB to take a PT test and scored 30 points higher than a month ago. With a little creativity as stated above there really is no excuse.

I can say from personal experience that taking supps in order to prepare for anything that will require cardio respiratory and muscle endurance is a waste of money, and will not benefit you half as much as simply drinking water while working out and refueling and stretching afterwards.

[abc_123]

Originally Posted by orion5

My bad....

Don't worry about it. You were just having a "blonde" moment.