04-01-2010, 13:45
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What is it...
... and should it be in my house?
Dear Sirs, my Google-fu brought up "Large Ammunition Data Sheets" and Army Technical Manuals, things I can't even pretend to understand. I'd appreciate your enlightenment. 
My husband, a pack-rat never known to turn down something free, brought this home last evening. It has written on the base of it: MMO 1944 Drill Cartridge Base 90 MM M12 M12B1. It's very heavy.
Should I call the bomb squad ASAP or give it a place of honor and call it a "conversation piece?" 
Thank you Gentlemen.
-Susan
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04-01-2010, 14:07
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It's a dummy training round used to drill tank crews in loading procedures...
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04-01-2010, 14:19
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It's a dummy training round used to drill tank crews in loading procedures...
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Oh great! Just what I need around the house -- another dummy! 
I assume it's harmless, then?
Thank you for your help Sir.
-Susan
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04-01-2010, 14:21
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I assume it's harmless, then?
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As long as you do not drop it or knock it over on your toe.
TR
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04-01-2010, 14:25
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It's a dummy training round used to drill tank crews in loading procedures...
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How do you know it's a dummy? Looks like something from WWI.
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04-01-2010, 14:29
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How do you know it's a dummy? Looks like something from WWI.
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Because of the nomenclature: "MMO 1944 Drill Cartridge Base 90 MM M12 M12B1"
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04-01-2010, 14:33
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Can you get a up-close picture of the bottom?
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04-01-2010, 14:42
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Because of the nomenclature: "MMO 1944 Drill Cartridge Base 90 MM M12 M12B1"
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My research said it was "inert" - like many of my students. (I can't call them 'dummies' - so I guess I'll start using "inert" - they'll think it is a compliment.)
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04-01-2010, 15:44
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My research said it was "inert" - like many of my students. (I can't call them 'dummies' - so I guess I'll start using "inert" - they'll think it is a compliment.)
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An "Inert" piece of ordnance means that it contains no flammables or explosives.
A "Drill" round is also inert, but is also designed to be repeatedly cycled through the weapon. Cycling an inert round might break it or cause it to be lodged in the weapon.
They are not always the same.
HTH.
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04-01-2010, 15:48
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How do you know it's a dummy? Looks like something from WWI.
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It is from WWII...and I went through the data sheets...took a looooooong time to download....
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04-01-2010, 18:08
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Some close-ups
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Can you get a up-close picture of the bottom?
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Yes sir, here are some better photos.
With some good lighting on the tip, I found the following: "Inert. Fuze Dummy M44 A2." (Interesting way to spell fuse.)
-Susan
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04-01-2010, 18:12
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Yes sir, here are some better photos.
With some good lighting on the tip, I found the following: "Inert. Fuze Dummy M44 A2." (Interesting way to spell fuse.)
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Good pics.
Yup, that's what I was looking for, no primer and the word "inert"..... As the Reaper said, you is safe. 
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04-01-2010, 18:15
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As long as you do not drop it or knock it over on your toe. TR |
Roger that Sir.
Would it be too blasphemous to banish the WWII relic to my garden? It might look nice in the iris and peony bed.
-Susan
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04-01-2010, 18:17
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Roger that Sir.
Would it be too blasphemous to banish the WWII relic to my garden? It might look nice in the iris and peony bed.
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Yeah, and then you find out it's worth $1500.
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04-01-2010, 18:22
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Good pics.
Yup, that's what I was looking for, no primer and the word "inert"..... As the Reaper said, you is safe. |
Many thanks, Sir.
I'm breathing easier around it. Not like late last night, when dear hubby brought it in to the bedroom and put in on the bed. How many women can say they've been in bed with one of those?
-Susan
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