Kreutzer

**Pete** · 03-12-2009, 06:26

http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=320915

Kreutzer pleads guilty to avoid the death penalty.

rubberneck · 03-12-2009, 12:05

I hate when prosecutors cut deals like this. This guy should have a meeting with ole sparky instead of drawing of Federal resources for the remainder of his natural life.

Rumblyguts · 03-12-2009, 12:25

ETS'd from 2/505 jsut prior to this and called a friend down there. He said the the 2 who did the tackling were SF, but I have never been able to find an article from back then. Is there any truth to the rumor?

edit: shooting article;

http://edition.cnn.com/US/9510/sniper/am/index.html

October 27, 1995
Web posted at: 11:45 p.m. EDT

FORT BRAGG, North Carolina (CNN) -- One soldier was killed and 20 others were hurt Friday when a sniper opened fire on an athletic field at Fort Bragg in North Carolina. The sniper allegedly fired on his unit as they prepared to start a morning run, a Fort Bragg spokesman said.

Moments after the soldier opened fire from a wooded area, a group of unarmed Special Forces soldiers wrestled him to the ground. "We came under fire and we moved into the tree line because we realized we were the only ones who could do anything about it," said Staff Sgt. Anthony Minor.

Minor said that the gunman, who was firing at them, turned away. And as he did, he and Sgt. Edward Mongold tackled the man. "It was a fight for his life," Minor said. "It was a fight for our lives."

Minor, Mongold and several other soldiers disarmed the shooter and held him for the military police.

Army officials have identified the shooting suspect as 26- year-old Sgt. William J. Kreutzer, an infantry squad leader in the Second Brigade. Kreutzer's hometown is listed as Washington, D.C.

The dead soldier has been identified as 38-year-old Major Stephen Mark Badger, the intelligence officer for the Second Brigade. His hometown was not available, but his place of birth was Salt Lake City, Utah.

Maj. Rivers Johnson said about 1,300 troops from the 2nd Infantry Brigade of the 82nd Airborne were gathered at Towle Stadium at 6:30 a.m. EDT, preparing to start a 4-mile run, when shots rang out from the woods nearby.

Authorities from the Army's Criminal Investigation Division said three weapons were found when the suspect was apprehended. They included a 9mm pistol, a .22-caliber rifle, and a AR-15 rifle, the civilian equivalent of the M-16 assault rifle. Johnson said soldiers at the fort do not ordinarily carry Army-issued weapons.

Johnson would not speculate on a motive for the shooting.

A soldier who was running nearby at the time of the incident said that he heard shots and that it appeared they were being fired at the staff of the 2nd Infantry Brigade.

A videotape shot by a soldier as the sniping incident began showed the troops scrambling for cover, many of them attempting to help the wounded reach safety.

Maj. Victor Modestor, chief of surgery at Womack Army Hospital at the fort, said four of the soldiers were taken into surgery. Two were in critical condition and the two others were stable.

A soldier who suffered paralysis when he was shot in the neck was transported to Duke Medical Center, where he was listed in stable condition. Another soldier suffered a gunshot wound to the chest and was in stable condition, Modesto said. Twelve other soldiers were listed in stable condition with gunshot wounds. Two other soldiers were treated for minor injuries.

The 2nd Brigade had just assumed mission status, said Johnson, meaning they would be the first brigade of the 82nd Airborne to go into action if a crisis occurred within the next three months.

**Pete** · 03-12-2009, 13:20

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Originally Posted by Rumblyguts

...He said the the 2 who did the tackling were SF, but I have never been able to find an article from back then. Is there any truth to the rumor?

Yes.

This pops up every now and again when something happens to Kreutzer. It was in the local paper but the downtown Library had a fire and is closed now so we can not review the micro fitch.

IIRC four SF guys were running down the road as all this was going on. They got to him right after he shot the last two. At least two got minor awards but the ceremony was low key.

While mentioned in the story it was pre-dawn on a foggy morning. The athletic field was lit so it had an orange glow but the area around it was dark. Roads had scattered street lights.

**Pete** · 03-25-2009, 05:16

http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=322017

JJ_BPK · 03-25-2009, 05:24

He should be fried...

glebo · 03-25-2009, 06:58

Yeah Pete, the guys were in ANCOC doing PT when they heard the shots. One was, well I forgot where I was, I think he's still on active duty as a SGM now, the two guys got soldiers medals. One was shot in the foot, I'm trying to think of his name (CRS), but I definetly know one of them.

They did a good job.

**Pete** · 02-16-2011, 11:20

Military appeals court weighs Kreutzer case

http://www.fayobserver.com/articles/...071468?sac=Mil

"A military appeals court is deciding whether to hear the case of a former Fort Bragg soldier who shot at his brigade in 1995.

William J. Kreutzer Jr. is seeking additional credit for time served............."

Turd - he did it.

greenberetTFS · 02-16-2011, 11:29

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Originally Posted by JJ_BPK

He should be fried...

I concur completely...........

Big Teddy

69harley · 02-16-2011, 11:54

One of the tacklers was Anthony Minor.

JJ_BPK · 02-16-2011, 11:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ_BPK

He should be fried...

Still the best idea..

1stindoor · 02-16-2011, 13:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69harley

One of the tacklers was Anthony Minor.

Another was a big ol' corn fed muldoon from West "by God" Virginia...Tony Mongold. I worked with him for years at the NCOA...he tells it best..."we were there because we were running BEHIND everyone else."

There's something to be said for being in the slow group.

greenberetTFS · 02-16-2011, 14:34

You know that was 1995,I'd forgotten all about it until now.........It took 15 years for that PRI*K to finally get his sentence and what happens,he gets away with life in prison..........He should never have been offered that option.......... What a disgrace for the families to have to accept this farce of justice................ Well maybe some prisoner may decide to take matters in his own hands and let real justice be done...........

Big Teddy

glebo · 02-16-2011, 15:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1stindoor

Another was a big ol' corn fed muldoon from West "by God" Virginia...Tony Mongold. I worked with him for years at the NCOA...he tells it best..."we were there because we were running BEHIND everyone else."

There's something to be said for being in the slow group.

Haaaa, I totally forgot he was one of them. I just saw him last week when we were conducting an 18E CTSB to adjust the 18E course (as well as the 18B & C).

Yup.....he's still corn fed!!