Family Care Plans

afchic · 02-18-2009, 08:54

I have a question for all of you to see if I am becoming overly sensitive in my old age. My feathers are a little ruffled over this.

This morning my husband was sent an e-mail from his first shirt asking him to fill out some additional questionaires for our family care plan. One of said questionaires asks such questions as 1) child's name, age, grade, school and name of teachers. 2) directions to said school from the base. 3) List of churches, best friends etc... with directions to said locations from the base. 4) List of afterschool provider, address, phone number and directions to said location from the base. 5) Identify favorite foods and toys to help child through a crisis.

These question I am sure are not meant to be used in any way to harm my child. But the parent in me, that has a gorgeous 11 year old little girl can see how this information, in the wrong hands, could be very dangerous for my daughter.

Now I understand the need for a family care plan. But my thought is that I would never choose ANYONE to be either my short term or long term caregiver, if they didn't already know my child well enough to already know the answers to these questions.

Secondly, why would I provide this information to ANYONE, that is not my short term or long term caregiver. I don't care if he is the first sergeant or not, I don't know him from Adam. I am sure he has this information locked in a file cabinet somewhere, in order to meet his requirements. But the pesimist in me says, this information wouldn't be too hard to get out of his office if I really really wanted to do it.

I also understand that there are reasons for this additonal requirement, ie somewhere there was a problem, and now they have to account for it. But the shirt can't seem to understand why we are refusing to provide him this information. Should be interesting if he decides to persue further. I told him I would be more than happy to sit down with him and the commander (2 Star) and explain my issues with this and why they will not recieved said information under any circumstances.

Am I being paranoid? I have checked the famiy care regulations, and the only requirement is to fill out the AF Form 357 with the required information. Nowhere does it outline the need for leadership to have any of this additional information

**Pete** · 02-18-2009, 09:48

Hmmm, thats a new one.

The goal of the FCP was the "short" followed by "long", if needed, term care plan.

It was executed by the family with close friends in the local area for the short term followed by a plan to transfer the kids to long term care.

The units responsibility was to review the plan to make sure it was workable, make sure it was updated every now and again - and if they were smart - exercise it.

Sounds like the unit is trying to come up with a plan to pick up kids if needed. I don't see the need and would need to be convinced.

afchic · 02-18-2009, 09:54

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Originally Posted by Pete

Hmmm, thats a new one.

The goal of the FCP was the "short" followed by "long", if needed, term care plan.

It was executed by the family with close friends in the local area for the short term followed by a plan to transfer the kids to long term care.

The units responsibility was to review the plan to make sure it was workable, make sure it was updated every now and again - and if they were smart - exercise it.

Sounds like the unit is trying to come up with a plan to pick up kids if needed. I don't see the need and would need to be convinced.

The answer I got from the shirt is they need that information to pass onto the caregivers in case, we as parents, somehow forget to do it.

HQ6 · 02-18-2009, 09:59

I have never had one that was so extensive. They asked for two backups in the area (my mom and my best friend in my case) to come support the family in the case of a crisis, but never anything about favorite food, toys, etc. The assumption is that the backups will already have familiar knowledge of the household and be able to step to help. Although I can somewhat see the usefulness of a more detailed plan for someone who has no friends or family within the immediate area, as the mom of two little girls, I don't blame you at all for being cautious. That is exactly the info that a child predatory would need to lure your child. Besides, no school should (although some stupid ones might!) release your child to anyone who is not specifically on the approved list, so why would them need directions to the school?

For long term care, they want a will in place with detailed instructions. IIRC the better half submitted a copy of his will (and maybe mine too but I don't remember) to group in case of an emergency.

**Team Sergeant** · 02-18-2009, 10:04

Crazy request.

Your hubby's leadership needs some common sense counseling.

As a former NCOIC of a Special Forces Group SCIF (Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF) I am willing to bet you what will happen when your current hubbies leadership "moves on". The incomming leadership will trash all that sensitive information as not needed for the mission, but not how you think, they will throw it away in a "public" trash can because it is NOT classified material and it will NOT be treated as such. That you can bet on, I know.

Besides beyond your DEERS info there's not much else your leadership needs to know concerning your children.

TS

**Richard** · 02-18-2009, 10:58

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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

...I am willing to bet you what will happen when your current hubbies leadership "moves on". The incomming leadership will trash all that sensitive information as not needed for the mission, but not how you think, they will throw it away in a "public" trash can because it is NOT classified material and it will NOT be treated as such. That you can bet on, I know.

That is exactly what I would worry about, too.

As a point of historical reference, we kept such information in our NEO* files in Bad Tolz during those pesky COLD WAR years. I didn't trust the NEO plans and made arrangements for my family (blonde, Germanic looking wife and son) to merely cross into Osterreich and remain with a farm family we had befriended until the whatever had ended if our team had been committed IAW our OPLANs.

Richard's $.02

NEO* Noncombatant Evacuation Operations

**Peregrino** · 02-18-2009, 12:16

I'm with Richard; that stuff is for NEO plans when the balloon goes up. Your executeable FCP depends on persons already known to the children. They shouldn't need that type/level of detail. That's so an adult not know to your children can evacuate them with minimal psych trauma. It's also an excellent way for a predator to gain trust/confidence/access. Stick to your guns; I doubt you'll have much problem with the 2-Star.

Red Flag 1 · 02-18-2009, 12:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete

Hmmm, thats a new one.

The goal of the FCP was the "short" followed by "long", if needed, term care plan.

It was executed by the family with close friends in the local area for the short term followed by a plan to transfer the kids to long term care.

The units responsibility was to review the plan to make sure it was workable, make sure it was updated every now and again - and if they were smart - exercise it.

Sounds like the unit is trying to come up with a plan to pick up kids if needed. I don't see the need and would need to be convinced.

Sounds like a very bulky data base. I would balk big time on giving up this amount of info. No matter how much data they have on your child, would a school release a child to a stranger in or out of uniform?

Agree with TS....change of command yields a trip to the shredder.

My $.02.

RF 1