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View Poll Results: Why did George Tenet resign?
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Personal reasons, really.
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Forced to resign; administration needed a scapegoat.
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Forced to resign; administration dissatisfied with his performance.
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He was tired of the criticism.
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06-03-2004, 14:40
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Why did George Tenet resign?
Pursuant to NDD's request.
Explain your answer and discuss if you wish.
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06-03-2004, 14:56
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EXCELLENT poll question!
Dissatisfied with his non-performance. I never understood why they kept him in the first place. We need a war fighting DCI.
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06-03-2004, 15:00
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EXCELLENT poll question!
Dissatisfied with his non-performance. I never understood why they kept him in the first place. We need a war fighting DCI.
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Totally agree on this. We need a DCI that can keep up with the likes of Rummy !!!
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06-03-2004, 15:07
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Wild Bill Donovan
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06-03-2004, 15:16
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voted "dissatisfied with performance".
My WAG is that he was intially kept on as a potential political cover if attacks took place. Current Admin. could not be attacked by former Pres. billy c. and his cronies quite as viciously because Tenet was his selection for the job too. It worked BTW.
Now its time to make some changes... time for fresh perspectives.
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06-03-2004, 15:28
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Esteemed member of the New York bar, among other things. 
http://foia.fbi.gov/donovan.htm
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06-03-2004, 15:35
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I think you'll find all great men had to overcome significant obstacles to achieve their goals.
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06-03-2004, 15:38
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Dissatisfied with his non-performance. I never understood why they kept him in the first place. We need a war fighting DCI.
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Who they replace him with will answer whether he was scapegoated or they were dissatisfied with him. If someone more hawkish, on the Rumsfeld model, is chosen then I agree with you NDD. On the other hand, if a less-assertive Colin Powell style director is appointed I think it indicates he was scapegoated.
My suspicion is the latter, unfortunately. I think the Bush administration, on the heels of Abu Ghraib and the relentless Left-slanted media barrage, is looking to show the American public he is less the cowboy than his accusers would have us believe. I think the administration is smarting from a black-eye they think has been brought on by the Rumsfeld-style tough-talking assertiveness (a trait, for all his many flaws, I thought Tenet possessed. He seemed to stick up tot he media pretty well). we get a less assertive, media conscious, director as a replacement then I don't think it bodes well.
NOTE: I think it would be the correct thing for the administration to put in a Rumsfeld style director. It is with regret that I suspect we will see the appointment of someone unlike him.
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06-03-2004, 15:38
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I voted dissatisfied with performance, and seems Saca beat me to it with the reasoning.
Bet there will be people coming out of the woodwork from the far left that think he's a scapegoat.
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06-03-2004, 15:45
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I think you'll find all great men had to overcome significant obstacles to achieve their goals.
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LMAO!
I never knew the "Donovan" from the Donovan Leisure firm in New York was a war hero. Donovan Leisure was a prominent Wall Street firm before it folded in 1998. It was known for, among other things, secretly buying up the Florida land on which Disney World was built.
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06-03-2004, 15:56
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Who they replace him with will answer whether he was scapegoated or they were dissatisfied with him. If someone more hawkish, on the Rumsfeld model, is chosen then I agree with you NDD. On the other hand, if a less-assertive Colin Powell style director is appointed I think it indicates he was scapegoated.
My suspicion is the latter, unfortunately. I think the Bush administration, on the heels of Abu Ghraib and the relentless Left-slanted media barrage, is looking to show the American public he is less the cowboy than his accusers would have us believe. I think the administration is smarting from a black-eye they think has been brought on by the Rumsfeld-style tough-talking assertiveness (a trait, for all his many flaws, I thought Tenet possessed. He seemed to stick up tot he media pretty well). we get a less assertive, media conscious, director as a replacement then I don't think it bodes well.
NOTE: I think it would be the correct thing for the administration to put in a Rumsfeld style director. It is with regret that I suspect we will see the appointment of someone unlike him.
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What if Rumsfeld hisownbadassself took the job. LOL
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06-03-2004, 15:58
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Quote:
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LMAO!
I never knew the "Donovan" from the Donovan Leisure firm in New York was a war hero. Donovan Leisure was a prominent Wall Street firm before it folded in 1998. It was known for, among other things, secretly buying up the Florida land on which Disney World was built.
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Our Paris office used to be Donovan Leisure's. We got it in the going-out-of-business sale. They still act like they're not part of the same firm, but maybe they're just being French.
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06-03-2004, 16:26
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06-03-2004, 19:16
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He would have been kept on if Bush did not have to make some gesture before heading over to Europe.
This will assuage the Europeans. The Europeans will play nice and one arrow gets removed from Kerry's quiver.
Tenet may have dropped the ball a few times, but damnit at least he was out there making plays. Those critical of him need to remember that the administration he was appointed under gave approx .5 shit about international relations in general and intelligence in particular and HUMINT specifically.
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06-03-2004, 19:24
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Then he shouldn't have taken the job. He should have been fired on day 1 of the Bush admin. Especially after all the incidents just prior. If he was so shit hot and they wouldn't let him do his job, why didn't he resign?
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