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Old 02-16-2007, 16:51   #1
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Murtha's Insanity Deepens

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,252216,00.html
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Congressman Murtha Crafts Bill to Prevent Iraq Troop Deployments

WASHINGTON — A powerful Democrat and Iraq war foe said he intends to introduce legislation in the coming weeks that would effectively end President Bush's plans to send 21,500 more troops into Iraq by setting limits on which troops can be sent.

Using an unusual medium — a recorded interview posted on the Internet — Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., said his bill would prevent troops from being sent back to Iraq too soon or too poorly equipped. Troops being sent back to Iraq for another tour would have to stay in the United States at least one year before being redeployed. The bill would also end "stop-loss" policies by preventing the president from retaining troops in Iraq after their enlistments expire.

Murtha, who is chairman of the defense subcommittee to the House Appropriations Committee, said he is formulating legislation with teeth because he doesn't think Bush's plan to send more troops to Baghdad and al Anbar province would accomplish the goals of bringing peace to the country or returning troops home sooner.

The Bush administration "won't be able to continue. They won't be able to do the deployment. They won't have the equipment. They don't have the training and they won't be able to do the work," Murtha said in the post on the Democrat-friendly Web site MoveCongress.org. "This vote will limit the options of the president and should stop this surge."

Murtha's proposed legislation drew a heated response from the House's top Republican, Rep. John Boehner of Ohio, who said the bill would "cut off funding for troops in harm's way by making sure the reinforcements they need to complete their mission in Iraq never arrive."

"While American troops are fighting radical Islamic terrorists thousands of miles away, it is unthinkable that the United States Congress would move to discredit their mission, cut off their reinforcements, and deny them the resources they need to succeed and return home safely," Boehner said in a statement.

"The American people will not support a strategy that involves pulling the rug out from under American troops in the combat zone by cutting off their reinforcements and forcing them to face the enemy without our full support," Boehner added.

Murtha said the legislation would not necessarily deprive the administration of money but would redirect it, and it would be crafted to protect the troops, not harm them.

"We need to make sure that everybody understands we're going to support the troops. We're going to give the troops everything they need. We're not going to .. make any of them vulnerable," Murtha said. "But we're going to make darn sure that they have what they need before they go over."

By crafting legislation with those goals in mind, Murtha said, "that stops the surge for all intents and purposes."

The Pennsylvania Democrat added that he is also considering language in the legislation that would close the military prisons at Guantanamo Bay and Abu Ghraib, and the bill might include a provision requiring the president to get approval from Congress before taking any military action against Iran.

Murtha said his legislation would be added the defense appropriations bill, and he plans on submitting it in mid-March before the House Appropriations Committee.

Murtha's appearance on the Web site was part of a broader push to gain support of a troop withdrawal from Iraq. He also taped a message to be played before 1,200 planned viewings of the antiwar film "The Ground Truth" on Thursday. The viewings are part of a grassroots effort organized by MoveOn.org to lobby Congress for legislation blocking the troop surge.
I'm too furious to think clearly right now. Thank you, Pennsylvania. Not happy with calling Marines "cold-blooded murderers" before an investigation was completed, and not satisfied with declaring "The Surge" a failure before it has even really begun, John Murthaf---er has decided to do everything he can to prevent success in Iraq.

*Tips from those in the know on how to keep stuff like this from making my blood boil to the point of not being able to have intelligent discussions are appreciated.

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Old 02-16-2007, 16:56   #2
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I saw it, and thought he sounded like the same opportunistic, conspiritorial, self-serving asshole that he appeared to be in his ABSCAM video appearance.

I was not unpleased by this.

The more they pander to the left wing of their party, the shorter their majority will be to enjoy.

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Old 02-16-2007, 17:08   #3
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John Murthaf---er has decided to do everything he can to prevent success in Iraq.
Murthaf... Nice.

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Old 02-16-2007, 17:14   #4
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Murtha is trying to stop the war funds so there is a bigger pile for him to siphon off........


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Old 02-16-2007, 17:16   #5
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"won't be able to continue. They won't be able to do the deployment. They won't have the equipment. They don't have the training and they won't be able to do the work," Murtha said

So how is this supporting the troops again? Voting to keep training and equipment from the troops so they can't continue on in a time of war, oh yea that's supporting the soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines on the ground, good call....

"We're going to give the troops everything they need." Except training, equipment, and replacements.... WTFO!
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Old 02-16-2007, 17:45   #6
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....is ANYone really surprised, though?!
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Old 02-16-2007, 17:52   #7
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This pusbag is a real piece of work. I'm glad he's not from my neck of the PA woods.

I love his "support" of the troops. I'll keep his words in mind next time I'm in the sandbox.
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Old 02-16-2007, 19:07   #8
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Murthaf... Nice.
Actually, credit for that goes to the Anti-Idiotarian Rottwieler, I had just completely lost my cool over that story and didn't give proper credit.

I'm still steamed, but I can think clearly now. I am amazed that there are actually people who think like this. I'm even more amazed that there are people who vote for people like him. On what planet does this guys thought process originate? No sane human could possibly believe in this garbage. I'm convinced that we've been invaded by pod people.

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Old 02-16-2007, 22:23   #9
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I'm convinced that we've been invaded by pod people.
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Old 02-17-2007, 09:10   #10
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I am amazed that there are actually people who think like this. I'm even more amazed that there are people who vote for people like him. On what planet does this guys thought process originate? No sane human could possibly believe in this garbage. .

Been to a college campus lately? The bastions of higher learning have turned into "liberal indoctrination of American youth" hovels. Thanks again 1960's.
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Old 02-18-2007, 15:06   #11
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Roger, Goggles, before work slammed me, I was GI Billin' my way through Georgia Tech.

The faculty, student gub'ment, and administration were pretty leftist, but the students weren't so much. Both the College Libertarians, and College Republicans, are pretty strong there. Louisiana Tech is also a non-lib school.

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On a very positive note, I have had some faith restored in the younger generation this past Saturday.

I went to have some breakfast, and the place was packed. I sat down, and about two minutes later, a gentleman and his teenage son sat next to me. After a few minutes, I heard them talking about a small town in OK with one stop-light. I laughed and told them I lived in a small town in OK that had 400 people, no stop-light, and that buying groceries involved a "trip to town" to get them.

The father was wearing a Georgia Tech shirt, as was I, and we started into a conversation about good ol' GT. The father asked if I had graduated from GT, and I said I hadn't. He then inquired as to my present occupation. I replied that I worked as an IT manager, but I was trying to wrap up things so that I could return to the Army. His son became extremely interested in me then.

"What did you do," he asked.
I replied, "I was an Infantryman."
His eyes lit up, and his father responded, "I don't know where he gets it, but he's wanted to be a soldier since he was five years old."

As we continued speaking, his father explained that the son suffered from an arteriovenous malformation, and he feared that his son would not be able to enlist. They told me the young man was scheduled for another surgery in a few weeks which they hoped would help eliminate the problem. He wants to be an infantryman.

I remember his father saying, "No parent wants their child to go to war, but this is what my son wants to do, and I will do everything I can to support him."

Our conversation continued long after my food was finished, and I continued to be amazed by the enthusiasm of this young man. Like me, they are libertarians who believe in a strong national defense, so we delved into many topics. I started rattling off books that I had learned about from PS.com.

"Have you read 'Roughneck Nine-One'," I asked. "Yes," he replied. I named five or more books I'd purchased due to recommendations on this site, and he had read them all. I asked him about "Guests of the Ayatollah" and he said he wanted to read it, but hadn't picked it up yet. This kid was maybe 15 years old (it's hard to tell for me), but has more sense than most of my peers. I was truly amazed.

This young man wants more than anything to serve his country, but may not have that opportunity due circumstances beyond his control. I see people every day who have grown up in the greatest nation this world has ever seen, but say they'd rather flip burgers than serve our country. You have no idea how good it made me feel knowing there are those in the younger generations who would answer the call--the MSM, government schools, and treasonous politicians together could not extinguish the fire this kid has. I pray that this young man's surgery is a success, and he gets the opportunity, no, the privilege and honor, of serving in the armed forces of the United States of America.

I mentioned earlier that I'm trying to return to service. I don't believe in destiny, but I do believe that sometimes you are given symbols to subtly tell you that you are on the right path. This wasn't a subtle symbol, but a 40 lb sledgehammer to the head telling me, "You are being called to serve something greater than yourself, and you have the ability to do so. You have been shown someone who would give up everything for the opportunity to do what you can do. Now, get your damn house sold, pop smoke, and unass the AO."

Thanks, kid, whoever you are, because not only have you helped restore my faith in our youth, but you are my inspiration. I will not fail.

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