07-11-2006, 11:44
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NW Utah gear for late summer
I'm going to be out at Dugway, Utah off and on through August and September. I've never been there at this time of year so am looking for assistance with my packing list. Some days I'll be out on the range from early morning to late evening. I've looked at several of the threads in this forum -- esp. CommoGeek's gear thread -- but wanted to throw this out for suggestions.
Thanks.
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07-11-2006, 12:02
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MOPP 4 gear?
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07-11-2006, 12:14
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MOPP 4 gear?
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Not unless I wander off in the wrong direction.
Note: add compass and map to list.
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07-11-2006, 12:46
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My guess would be dry, moderately high altitude 4,000'-5,000', temps 55-95 degrees.
I would have a day pack, three day ruck, or assault pack with a 100oz. Camelback inside.
To that I would add the following:
Small survival kit*
Small first aid kit
Signal kit with mirror, whistle, small signal panel, strobe*
Radio and/or cell phone, whichever is better comms in your area*
Pediayte or ORS
Water purification tabs*
Small Platypus water bladder* or three
Snack food
Lightweight Gore-Tex jacket or a wind shirt
Light polypro shirt, if out very early in the morning
Large brimmed hat, like the boonie or desert hat*
Good, well broken in desert boots*
BDUs, ACUs, DCUs, or 5.11s*
Ingenius socks* and a spare pair
Spare t-shirt and undies
Lightweight gloves
Sunglasses*
Prescription glasses (if needed)*
Cravat bandage* or three
Surefire LED flashlight with spare batteries*
Photon flashlight* or two
Headlamp, if doing close-up work, to include reading or navigating at night
Butane Lighter*
Large knife
Leatherman tool*
Mini-binoculars
Compass*
Area map, 1:50,000 if not moving too far, air graphic for distance or if flying*
20' or so of 550 cord*, more in ruck
Ziplocks
Sunscreen*
Chap-Stick*
Insect repellent
Toilet paper in Ziplock bag
Toiletries for unexpected overnighters (love the little airline kits with mini toothbrushes, toothpaste, deodorant, shaving cream, razor, and comb)
Poncho liner, preferably with zipper on three sides
Survival blanket* or two
Good thick book
* Gear that would be on my person (First Line). Use a fanny pack if necessary.
One of the coldest nights I ever spent was in Hawaii at PTA when the bags/rucks did not catch up with us by nightfall. Even warm climates can get cold when you travel light and the big heat tab drops.
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07-11-2006, 14:03
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Thanks, TR.
I always carry my Surefire G2 and ps.com leatherman.
I think my problems will be finding good women's desert boots and a pack for my height (15" back).
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07-11-2006, 14:06
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Been there I see.
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Another one who has been to the Ditto Area I see.
"If you here the horn this is no drill."
I wonder if the Bomber is still in the mud puddle at the end of the runway?
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07-11-2006, 14:08
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If you aren't rucking in, any of the three-day assault packs should do.
Some have aluminum stays, most are adjustable and removable.
If you were going to be humping a ruck continuously, I would recommend onre of the smaller Kifarus, but it is hard to justify that expense for a one time use.
Eagle, Camelbak, and Tactical Tailor (not sure on price) all make good, small, three-day packs most just over $100. The BlackHawk is about the same price, but the quality is very spotty.
Not critical, unless you are going to have to use the ruck to move out, rather than just to keep things together from the bus to the bleachers and back every day.
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07-11-2006, 14:19
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....just to keep things together from the bus to the bleachers and back every day.
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This is what I'm planning on, but I work with a bunch of former Marines so who knows where we'll end up...
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