01-19-2021, 09:15
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Was disappointed to read this morning that the governor of Texas sent 1000 Texas NG to the socialist democrat coronation in DC.
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01-19-2021, 09:42
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I think it's a bit of an overkill. They never allowed the Guard to be brought in when we had riots/cities burning/looting/blocking highways/taking over city blocks/buildings and thugs beating up people and cops in Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland, Chicago....the list goes on....Now all of a sudden it's "to stop any violence from the right".....We've gone mad....
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01-19-2021, 10:05
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Originally Posted by rsdengler
I think it's a bit of an overkill. They never allowed the Guard to be brought in when we had riots/cities burning/looting/blocking highways/taking over city blocks/buildings and thugs beating up people and cops in Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland, Chicago....the list goes on....Now all of a sudden it's "to stop any violence from the right".....We've gone mad....
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Optics...
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01-19-2021, 10:05
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Governor Abbott
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Originally Posted by bblhead672
Was disappointed to read this morning that the governor of Texas sent 1000 Texas NG to the socialist democrat coronation in DC.
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https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/te...nsive/2530767/
At least he found it offensive they got vetted for going to Washington D.C.
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01-19-2021, 10:14
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At least he found it offensive they got vetted for going to Washington D.C.
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After spending time in DC...I sure hope they fumigated before they head home.
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01-19-2021, 10:48
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Abbott does some good things...but he often doesn't recognize bad optics. Sending Texas NG to the swamp indicates compliance with the swamp.
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01-19-2021, 14:40
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Abbott
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Abbott does some good things...but he often doesn't recognize bad optics. Sending Texas NG to the swamp indicates compliance with the swamp.
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Yeah I didn't quite get that. If the Federal Government needed the troops for the inauguration shouldn't they have ordered them up into Federal service? Why would a Republican governor want to help Biden's inauguration? Lots of questions
The only thing I can find on Texas Guard is around voting time. Would like to know who ordered them up.
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01-19-2021, 15:01
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Originally Posted by tonyz
After spending time in DC...I sure hope they fumigated before they head home.
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Definitely count their fingers and toes and kidneys.
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01-19-2021, 15:12
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At least he found it offensive they got vetted for going to Washington D.C.
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If he was truly offended, he could easily recall them right now. The governor doth protest too much, methinks.
Further, SECDEF (by EO) controls the DCNG and accepts/approves offers of assistance from other states (unless he delegates that authority to SECARMY). Why the hell is Miller allowing this 27,000 person security circus; he's out of a job tomorrow, so no use in pandering to the new king and his court.
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01-19-2021, 15:15
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Yeah I didn't quite get that. If the Federal Government needed the troops for the inauguration shouldn't they have ordered them up into Federal service?
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If NG units are federalized, they are restricted from performing law enforcement-like duties by Posse Comitatus, just like active duty troops. If they stay under State Active Duty or Title 32, they aren't bound by those restrictions.
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01-19-2021, 16:43
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Chief, NGB blip
CNGB had a little blip talking about visiting "some of the 65,000 Soldiers and Airmen that we have on duty today." He can't be talking about the total NG force, it's bigger than that IIRC. Here's the blip's link:
https://www.xxxxxxx.com/watch?v=5Y6Dx7eqgYI
In another short interview, the talking head had asked him, very specifically noting that the NG are armed, what their specific RoE were. Frankly, imo, he danced around that and left it up to the Federal LE HMFIC & I can understand that, but he assured the lady interviewer that "all our Soldiers are trained in de-escalation techniques" - really?
SIX FIVE THOUSAND and RAZOR WIRE
Good thing; sure would hate for a crowd of attendees to get concerned over a homeless cooking fire a mile away.
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01-19-2021, 18:47
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"A de-escalation Technique" !
The Kent State method..."Those guns aren't loaded".
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01-19-2021, 20:51
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01-19-2021, 21:14
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So does this mean they will be courts martial’d when they return home and be discharged with a less than honorable discharge?
Never allowed to own, or purchase a weapon again?
How far down the rabbit hole do we go?
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01-19-2021, 21:41
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The Chief of the National Guard Bureau has no command authority over any NG member or unit. He is like the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, with coordinating authority only.
I find it interesting he noted 65,000 activated Guardsmen around the country; this morning's NGB update cited 91,000.
There's no way the NGB, the Intel Community, or even the FBI conducted 27,000 short-notice, legitimate background investigations in less than a week. I have a feeling this screening didn't go beyond doing biographic information queries of various USG watch lists, and cursory social media scrapes to look for keyword/image associations.
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