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Old 11-18-2004, 19:09   #16
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AM, that was the funniest thing I've read since the 60mm story.

You need to change your name to NUMBA F****** ONE, DO IT AGAIN
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Old 11-18-2004, 19:31   #17
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Let's see, back to the CS !!! Next, Cycalos and the "White Mice !!!"
OK, first a definition: "White Mice" (WM) the Viet equivalent of our MPs. They picked up the handle because of the white helmet liners, spats and gloves that they wore, coupled with the fact that they could not really bother us any more than a mouse could.

Set the scenario: There were about 5-6 of us Recon types down in Nha Trang on stand-down. A few of us decided to not check in at the transient barracks (that way no-one would be looking for us if anything happened in the compound) and we went into town just before the gates got locked down. We had been having a pretty good party when somewhere around midnight the WM raided the establishment that we were in !!

We had them out-gunned, but we decided it would be much more simple to just E&E them. We escaped over a blind wall (not accessable from the streets) and made our way over the rooftops to a sidestreet that was not covered by the WM. There,we hailed a Cycalo (a three wheeled motorized version of a rickshaw) and made good our escape. We made it about 200m from the "bust" and were spotted !!! The chase was on !!

With about 3-4 Jeeps in hot pursuit, we hauled ass. Things were starting to look pretty grim and I knew that if this kept up for very much longer, the US MPs would join in and then it would be a very long and unplesant night. I remembered that I had my Insect Repellent Bottle with CS Powder in it and one of the others had their's too !!! We took the lids off, stuck them out and to the rear of the cab and layed down a cloud of CS !!!!!

The Jeeps started swerving from side to side and finally all of them crashed into the buildings on both sides of the road !! We made good our escape and retired to another establishment that welcomed our money and good charm !!

Remember, WAR when viewed backwards stands for Recon Always Wins !!

We fought hard, but partied HARDER !!!

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Old 11-18-2004, 19:44   #18
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I started with a 60mm Illumination round and succeeded in dismantling several.
"succeeded" LOL. ROTFLMAO!

Great stories Brother!
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Old 11-18-2004, 19:47   #19
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NUMBA F****** ONE, DO IT AGAIN !!!
I'm crying here! My side hurts.
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Old 11-18-2004, 19:48   #20
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The Jeeps started swerving from side to side and finally all of them crashed into the buildings on both sides of the road !! We made good our escape and retired to another establishment that welcomed our money and good charm !!

Remember, WAR when viewed backwards stands for Recon Always Wins !!
LOL!! That has to be the funniest Vietnam story I've ever heard. If only you could get away with doing that shit today!! Keep 'em coming AM!!
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Old 11-18-2004, 19:54   #21
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Oh similar things still go on today. When the statute of limitations runs out, I'll tell some Palmerola escape stories.
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Old 11-18-2004, 20:13   #22
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"succeeded" LOL. ROTFLMAO!
You don't understand how difficlult it was to separate those little suckers without SETTING OFF THE FLARE !!! I made a "dummy" fuse head and saved the removed ones to use later, upon reassembly, to initiate the discharge of the Foogas. The dummy was drilled to accept timefuse and I would install it after the "live Fuse" was removed and then with a very small charge of powder would "kick" the flare out. Worked quite well !!


The real trick was how I figured out how to KEEP the Fookin gas fumes INSIDE so as to not partially incinerate the gunner !!!


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Old 11-19-2004, 07:16   #23
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Martin,
You have a career in literature ahead of you.
Good stuff.

Keep them coming.
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Old 11-19-2004, 07:42   #24
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From the Roof of the Nha Trang Hotel.

Right after Tet '68 I had to go to the SFOB on business. When we checked in we were told to check our weapons. We asked what to do in the event of a ground attack and were told to just go to the bunkers and the permanent party garrison would take care of things. RIGHT!! We spent the night in the Nha Trang Hotel and had a pretty good view of the light show over and around the SFOB from the roof. There was a little bar set up on the roof and we could enjoy Ba Mui Ba while watching the war! We figured we were safer there than in the SFOB. This picture is from the roof and may show AM's roof tops.

As for getting away with things, as long as you were willing to beat the bush, those who weren't willing would let you alone.
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Old 04-24-2015, 21:59   #25
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The "Porcupines" are in the April edition of American Rifleman!!
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Old 04-26-2015, 00:42   #27
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Yeah just ask Martin what NOT to do, I figured he has that POI well covered through personal experience
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Old 04-26-2015, 00:50   #28
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One thing that CISCO (our 007 supply guys) did was come up with a mini mask that worked just for CS/CN gas but not for any biohaz stuff. Lots lighter and easier to carry and don in a hurry.

Last mission I ran with RT Kansas we were sitting in the middle of a NVA trail watch station and ambushed the guys that came looking for us. We decided the best option was to exfil back down the trail to the LZ and scarf up a prisoner or two on the way out.

So Gary Swartzbaugh and I used our sawed off M79s to fire CS rounds ahead of us as we went down the trail (team was wearing masks). Apparently one of the NVA was wounded and alive under the foliage (kind of like big water lily leaves that were about 2 ft off the ground and covered the area under the trees). The team fired on instinct at the movement and it was scratch on possible POW.

We did get another POW further down the hill so it wasn't a total loss but he died in the hospital about 45 min after our return so we didn't get the 30 day leave and $100 reward.

But CS works really well in those cases (suspected ambush sites) if you have the 40mm CS rounds.
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Old 04-26-2015, 16:08   #29
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One thing that CISCO (our 007 supply guys) did was come up with a mini mask that worked just for CS/CN gas but not for any biohaz stuff. Lots lighter and easier to carry and don in a hurry.
Those were the same "Mini-Masks" that we Ran With!!
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Old 08-07-2015, 22:00   #30
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I spent 16 months on a border camp with Cambodia on 2 sides couple Ks away.

We always had operations out trying to catch Charlie infiltrating stuff across the border.

I got to know the AO pretty well as we always had to commo guys on the team and I could go on all the missions I wanted.

Anyways-sometimes we'd see explosions in the air along the border. These were the AF dropping drumsof CS crystals and them exploding above ground dusting the area.

It was thick canopy and vegitation, so don't know how effective that was.

Sometimes we would be in that area, often looking for water.

The CIDG would suddenly start coughing and running around in circles. Frantically banging into each other and tripping over themselves.

Usually nearby was an unexploded drum of CS that had busted open and left a carpet of the crystals that activated when crunched.

It affected the little guys much more than us Americans, but it really got your attention.

Some welcome comedy relief.

Also, along the border, leaflets had accumulated over the years-lots and lots of them.

I was always afraid we would lose and they would make us pick them up.
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