Trumped

[jnoob22]

Originally Posted by Ret10Echo

GC... concur.. The status-quo is unacceptable but my confidence in "the people" to make hard choices and to suffer a little bit today for a much better tomorrow is near zero.

Path of least resistance...

I've always believed that if provoked enough, the American people could grow to be mean and tough but now I'm starting to question that. Bread and circuses. I'd like to think the end is not near for this Republic.

[Paslode]

The Lives of Americans, The Livelihoods of the Drug Companies: Donald Trump Points the Way to a New Social Contract—Like It or Not

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...ike-it-or-not/

[Mills]

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What a joke this guy has become.

We are in fact witnessing a liberal surrogate in action friends. It might be too late, so I will see you all on the high ground.

[RomanCandle]

The problem is that the article starts off by accusing Trumps proposal of being more Democrat than Republican. No mention at this point about whether it is good for the people of the USA. So partisanism (if that is a word) "trumps" again.

Then it covers the two aspects that he espouses: Re-importation and Price Negotiation.

1. Why are lobbyists so set against re-importation? Is it to "protect" US trade, or is it to protect the ability of US Drug Manufacturers to capture multiple patents allowing them to set what ever price they feel like. The fact that lobbyists are involved already makes the skin crawl. On the face of it it resembles the free market in action but there is likely massive manipulation going on.

Maybe the real question should be: Why do conditions prevail that make it possible that re-importation of US made drugs are done at a less expensive rate than those that were never imported in the first place?

2 Price Negotiation: I fail to see why there is a fear that Government 'negotiation' would turn into 'direction' unless seen simply as a threat to monopoly possibly caused by conditions prevailing in point 1. Is not the free market way that of negotiation?

I fully accept that not being a US resident I may not have the full picture here and there may be mistakes in my 'logic' but we have the identical problem in SA with pricing of drugs running rampant because of the capturing of multiple patents by pharmaceutical corporations and thus a total monopoly and stifling of competition. So much so that for many private Medical Aid companies will not cover the full or even most of the regimen of treatment making survival prospects significantly lower.

It appears that the art of negotiation and compromise has been lost to cynical greedy hands where profits are being made on both sides, and instead of addressing the underlying problem (god forbid the revolving door of backhanders and reserved multi-million dollar jobs for ex-regulators should grind to a halt) The stale old fallback of trying to regulate in band-aid solutions takes precedence.

[Pete]

I watched the interview Trump did with Mr Leg Tingle where he made the statements the news - and GOPe - have been harping on the last few days.

Mr Leg Tingle would never badger a D like that (HRC & e-mails).

I'd take the answer in the context of the whole interview for each subject.

[Dusty]

ABC

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by Pete

I watched the interview Trump did with Mr Leg Tingle where he made the statements the news - and GOPe - have been harping on the last few days.

Mr Leg Tingle would never badger a D like that (HRC & e-mails).

I'd take the answer in the context of the whole interview for each subject.

Chris Matthews equates to garbage. I am so sick of the abortion topic in every election cycle I can't see straight. A stupid anchor point that has little bearing on keeping the USA together.


So Trump is getting hammered because he is Pro Life, the Evangelist Ted Cruz may have been bumping uglies with someone other than Heid and the GOP is getting ready to disembowel themselves.

The General Election is shaping up to be a barn burner.

Originally Posted by Mills

We are in fact witnessing a liberal surrogate in action friends. It might be too late, so I will see you all on the high ground.

You must be referring to the Bill Kristol and Karl Rove GOPe types and funding by Patriots like George Soros

Originally Posted by RomanCandle

It appears that the art of negotiation and compromise has been lost to cynical greedy hands where profits are being made on both sides, and instead of addressing the underlying problem (god forbid the revolving door of backhanders and reserved multi-million dollar jobs for ex-regulators should grind to a halt) The stale old fallback of trying to regulate in band-aid solutions takes precedence.

It is all about cronyism and corporate welfare. Just look at how much money has been spent to thwart Trump when you combined the GOPe and Soros funding. And the effort......Hiring protestors on Craiglist for $15 per hour to attend Anti-Trump rallies.

[tonyz]

Originally Posted by Dusty

ABC

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[sinjefe]

Originally Posted by Paslode

You must be referring to the Bill Kristol and Karl Rove GOPe types

Why does it have to be like that? Anyone giving Trump more than a cursory look will see that he is anything but conservative. With Trump, what you see is not what you get.

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by sinjefe

Why does it have to be like that? Anyone giving Trump more than a cursory look will see that he is anything but conservative. With Trump, what you see is not what you get.

Being an Illusionist is a requirement of the politicial inhabitants of DC.

I believe the looming question is why the GOPe and George Soros have invested about a BILLION dollars to attack one man. What is the ROI they fore see? What is at stake? What I am reasonable confident of, is that they are not looking out for my best interest.

[sinjefe]

Originally Posted by Paslode

Being an Illusionist is a requirement of the politicial inhabitants of DC.

I believe the looming question is why the GOPe and George Soros have invested about a BILLION dollars to attack one man. What is the ROI they fore see? What is at stake? What I am reasonable confident of, is that they are not looking out for my best interest.

Okay I agree that the GOPe and Soros don't like him. That doesn't mean you have to support him though. I just don't understand why, with respect to people running for political office, we suspend the "actions speak louder than words" mantra and believe what they say. Because they are validating one's own view of things?

[Peregrino]

Originally Posted by Paslode

Being an Illusionist is a requirement of the politicial inhabitants of DC.

I believe the looming question is why the GOPe and George Soros have invested about a BILLION dollars to attack one man. What is the ROI they fore see? What is at stake? What I am reasonable confident of, is that they are not looking out for my best interest.

And therein lies the crux of the matter.

The choices are settling out to be Trump or Clinton. Trump may burn the house down (which might be a really good thing) but Clinton will burn the country down. And I'm not ready for the consequences of the latter. NTM - At least Trump hasn't engaged in blatant treason. Clinton needs to spend the rest of her life in solitary in a FEDMAX prison. That won't happen if she wins the election.

[Roguish Lawyer]

Originally Posted by Peregrino

The choices are settling out to be Trump or Clinton.

Your math ain't so great today.

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by sinjefe

Okay I agree that the GOPe and Soros don't like him. That doesn't mean you have to support him though. I just don't understand why, with respect to people running for political office, we suspend the "actions speak louder than words" mantra and believe what they say. Because they are validating one's own view of things?

The establishment not liking Trump is an understatement. If actions spoke louder than words HRC (and many other politicians) would at best be spending life in prison.

I haven't believed anything emited from a politicians mouth since Read My Lips NO New TAXES.

My choices are a Jimmy Swaggert clone, a guy that comes off as a perverted uncle, a socialist guy who wants to give everything away, a female spawn of Satan and the Asshole Trump.

Waiting just outside the door is at least one slimeballs by the name of Paul Ryan that few will vote for.


I will take my chances with the asshole named Trump.

[Mills]

Originally Posted by Peregrino

And therein lies the crux of the matter.

The choices are settling out to be Trump or Clinton. Trump may burn the house down (which might be a really good thing) but Clinton will burn the country down. And I'm not ready for the consequences of the latter. NTM - At least Trump hasn't engaged in blatant treason. Clinton needs to spend the rest of her life in solitary in a FEDMAX prison. That won't happen if she wins the election.

personally, with all of these wonderful talking points.........

I don't see why more people aren't obviously attracted to the only true conservative running. Yeah yeah, the postmaster general polls well against the beast from Arkansas............who cares. That guy couldn't debate his was out of a wet paper bag.

Same goes for Trump. Aside from 5 year old equivalent arguments like "he started it" and interrupting, he has minimal substance. After the entire fiasco with the supermarket tabloids...........I actually have come full circle with the determination that I will NEVER vote for that man. He is a snake and a coward and will deal our country into the next depression.

Herbert Hoover anyone?