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Old 04-08-2014, 22:22   #1
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Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

Saw this on one of the talking heads broadcasts tonight. Looks like this has been going on for some time, but is finally coming to a head al-la "Ruby Ridge" style.



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Ruby Ridge-style standoff brewing as Bundy says he is prepared to be killed

A Ruby Ridge-style standoff is brewing in Nevada, where dozens of armed federal agents are closing in on cattle rancher Cliven Bundy over claims that Bundy has allowed his cows to graze illegally on government land, endangering a protected species of tortoise.

Vowing to take a stand for, “your liberty and freedom,” Bundy says he is prepared to be killed as authorities surround a 600,000 acre section of public land as a result of Bundy violating a 1993 Bureau of Land Management ruling which changed grazing rights in order to protect the endangered desert tortoise.

“With all these rangers and all this force that is out here, they are only after one man right now. They are after Cliven Bundy. Whether they want to incarcerate me or whether they want to shoot me in the back, they are after me. But that is not all that is at stake here. Your liberty and freedom is at stake,” Bundy said.

Bundy’s refusal to recognize federal authority over the land under dispute and his failure to pay tens of thousands of dollars in grazing fees stems from his assertion that his family’s history trumps bureaucracy.

“My forefathers have been up and down the Virgin Valley ever since 1877. All these rights I claim have been created through pre-emptive rights and beneficial use of the forage and water. I have been here longer. My rights are before the BLM even existed,” Bundy said.

Accusing feds of seizing Nevada’s sovereignty, Bundy says he has fought the battle legally, through the media, and is now gearing up to fight it physically.

“Armed agents are forming a a military-like staging area to prevent anyone from approaching the area,” writes Mike Paczesny.

Bundy asserts that his case is emblematic of how America has been transformed into a “police state,” labeling the government’s actions “pathetic”.

Hundreds of federal officials, aided by helicopters, low flying aircraft and hired cowboys, began rounding up Bundy’s cattle on Saturday as Bundy accused them of “trespassing,” adding that the impact will only serve to raise beef prices for residents of Las Vegas 80 miles away.

Feds postponed a similar raid in 2012 over fears the action would spur violence. Bundy has drawn a lot of support from the local community and protesters are heading to the area to demand authorities back off. Officials have created a taped off “First Amendment Area” where demonstrators can voice their concerns. A sign placed inside the area reads “Welcome to Amerika – Wake Up” alongside a hammer and sickle logo.

“The rights were created for us,” Bundy told the Las Vegas Review Journal. “I have the right to use the forage. I have water rights. I have access rights. I have range improvement rights, and I claim all the other rights that the citizens of Nevada have, whether it’s to camp, to fish or to go off road.”

Addressing the justification of seizing the cattle to protect a species of tortoise, Bundy stated, “I’ll never get it. If it weren’t for our cattle, there’d be more brush fires out here. The tortoises eat the cow manure, too. It’s filled with protein.”

The standoff has echoes of the 1992 Ruby Ridge incident, during which Randy Weaver, accused of selling an ATF agent two illegal sawed-off shotguns, became embroiled in a tragic confrontation with the the United States Marshals Service (USMS) and the FBI, resulting in the death of Weaver’s son Sammy, his wife Vicki, and Deputy U.S. Marshal William Francis Degan.

The story also brings back memories of New Hampshire couple Ed and Elaine Brown, who were involved in a nine month standoff with armed law enforcement and feds as a result of their refusal to pay income tax. The Browns were later convicted of “plotting to kill federal agents” because of their refusal to surrender and were both given de facto life sentences.

Link with video(s) .... http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/04...attle-rancher/

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Old 04-09-2014, 01:25   #2
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Farmers can be funny people, in Australia there's been a few instances of where they declare/create their own 'country' so don't acknowledge the laws of the land as they are not a part of it.....they mysteriously seem to take this stance when they owe others money, funny that.
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Old 04-09-2014, 18:07   #3
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Could this be the "Taser" heard around the world ???

Probably not, but it is starting to get "snarky" on the ranch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhJ6...ature=youtu.be

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Old 04-10-2014, 16:11   #4
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http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2014/04...-nevada-ranch/

http://www.infowars.com/20-cowboys-b...trieve-cattle/
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Old 04-10-2014, 16:23   #5
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Reports are coming out of the Bundy Ranch that some militia have arrived. Let's see what that brings.

One interesting tid bit from the below link, the beginning of the tape tells of one guy who says the Feds aren't pushing Bundy off this land just for the sake of the Desert Tortoise, but for something more, ie. water and mineral rites.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfOVg5R4ngA

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Old 04-10-2014, 20:09   #6
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The State of Nevada should exercise imminent domain power and kick everybody off of the land.
Including the turtles.

Such an action would reveal the true motives of all the involved parties.
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Old 04-11-2014, 06:45   #7
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Here is someone adding fuel to the fire. FWIW I don't think this is the start of a second revolution.

http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/04...rville-nevada/

An area just outside of the little town of Bunkerville, Nevada, with a population of around a thousand people, may go down in history. This little spot in the desert may be compared with Lexington, Massachusetts, the site of the “shot heard round the world” – the first shot fired in the American Revolution. Because it looks like the second American Revolution may start there…and soon.

Yesterday, The Daily Sheeple reported that tensions were running high outside of Bunkerville. It seems that the US government, in all of their infinite wisdom, has declared war on a cattle rancher named Cliven Bundy.

In a stand-off that has been likened to Ruby Ridge and Waco, the federal government has now deployed armed agents in a case of what the U.S. Department of the Interior’s Bureau of Land Management (BLM) has deemed “trespass cattle,” escalating a 20-year battle over grazing rights and what actually constitutes “public land” use in Southern Nevada.

Cliven Bundy, a 67-year-old rancher says his family has worked the 600,000-acre Gold Butte area since the late 1800s and that they were there well before the government’s Land Management Bureau ever came along. (source)

Armed federal officers have arrived to steal Bundy’s cattle and close down the land he is using. What’s more, they have declared a zone around the area to be free of the restrictions of the Constitution, specifically, the First Amendment right to assemble and speak freely. They’d like to keep their reprehensible actions quiet and out of the public eye. It’s really difficult to mow down a bunch of protesters ala Waco with the whole world watching.

Yesterday, tensions began to rise even further and numerous protestors were tazed and assaulted. (You can see the actions of those brave BLM officers on this video HERE).

It looks like tensions will rise even further because Americans have had enough.

Militias have been mobilized. It’s going to get real.

Bundy may be facing down a bunch of armed federal thugs but he’s going to be backed up by militia members from across the country.

This is the day that Patriots have been talking about and training for. They will not stand down.

CBS reports that militias from Texas, Montana, Utah, New Hampshire, and Florida will be standing with Bundy against the Bureau of Land Management.

If you aren’t a combatant, this doesn’t mean that you can’t participate in this revolt against tyranny. This is a call to action.

Here are the pertinent email addresses and phone numbers:

Bureau Of Land Management Phone Number: (202) 208-3801
Brian Sandoval Email Contact Form- http://gov.nv.gov/Contact/Governor/
Brian Sandoval – Carson City Phone # - (775) 684-5670
Brian Sandoval Las Vegas Phone # -(702) 486-2500
Senator Dean Heller Contact Form -
Phone #’s For Heller – Reno: 775-686-5770/ Las Vegas: 702-388-6605/ Washington: 202-224-6244
Sheriff Douglas Gillespi - (702) 828-3231 or (702) – 828 – 3111
Email: Sheriff@lvmpd.com

(source)

Share information in support of these people who refuse to stand idly by while theft, violence, and tyranny occurs at the hands of the government. If we all spread the word, there is no way that another Ruby Ridge or Waco can quietly occur. We can combat the disinformation spouted by the mainstream media by publishing REAL photos, REAL videos, and REAL accounts of what is happening. We can keep the communication open and tell the world what the United States government is doing to its own people.

Share this and other stories through email, through social media, through links in the comments sections of mainstream news sites. Whatever you do, don’t wait for someone else to take action. Now is the time to speak up for liberty. Make this story too viral for the mainstream to ignore. Do not allow these brave people staring down the barrel of a gun to do so without our support.

The Bureau of Land Management has picked up a snake by the tail, and it looks like that snake is going to bite.
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Old 04-11-2014, 14:59   #8
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Brush has a point. The rancher has been paying Nevada land use but not the Federal Government. What you're seeing from the reaction (or some might say over reaction) of the people is due to a history of the Federal Governments land grab out west.

You might recall when Pres. Clinton established the Grand Staircase Escalante. This also forced ranchers and their cattle off the public lands that they had been using for generations. The BLM went so far as to round up all the cattle and move them to Salina, a town about 100 miles from Escalante to auction them off. We're talking about the BLM taking the ranchers cattle and selling them before any due process. The people from Escalante showed up at the auction with cattle trailers and started loading them up. The BLM told the local sheriff to stop them. He asked what do you want me to do shoot them?

I work in the international shipping business. Soon after the Kaiparowits Plateau was closed I received calls to move Coal Hanlding Equipment to Indonesia to be used in filling ships that would tranport the coal to China.

Note the following:

A large part of America's energy dependence on foreign sources can be traced to Sept. 18, 1996, when President Bill Clinton stood on the edge of the Grand Canyon on the Arizona side and signed an executive proclamation making 1.7 million acres of Utah a new national monument.

Why would he dedicate a Utah monument while standing in Arizona? Well, this federal land grab was done without any consultation with the governor of Utah or any member of the Utah congressional delegation or any elected official in the state. The unfriendly Utah natives might have spoiled his photo-op.

The state already had six national monuments, two national recreation areas and all or part of five national forests. Three-quarters of Utah already was in federal hands. Still, the land grab was sold as a move to protect the environment.

At the time, the Clintons were worried that Ralph Nader's presence on the ballot in a few Western states would draw green votes from Clinton in a race that promised to be close after the GOP retook Congress two years earlier.

In fact, the declaration of 1.7 million Utah acres as a national monument, thereby depriving an energy-starved U.S. up to 62 billion tons of environmentally safe low-sulfur coal worth $1.2 trillion and minable with minimal surface impact, was a political payoff to the family of James Riady.

He's the son of Lippo Group owner Mochtar Riady. James was found guilty of — and paid a multimillion dollar fine for — funneling more than $1 million in illegal political contributions through Lippo Bank into various American political campaigns, including Bill Clinton's presidential run in 1992.

Clinton took off the world market the largest known deposit of clean-burning coal. And who owned and controlled the second-largest deposit in the world of this clean coal? The Indonesian Lippo Group of James Riady. It is found and strip-mined on the Indonesian island of Kalimantan.

The Utah reserve contains a kind of low-sulfur, low-ash and therefore low-polluting coal that can be found in only a couple of places in the world. It burns so cleanly that it meets the requirements of the Clean Air Act without additional technology.

"The mother of all land grabs," Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, said at the time. He has called what was designated as the Grande Staircase of the Escalante National Monument the "Saudi Arabia of coal."

When Clinton signed the proclamation, he promised to exchange other federal lands for the land that was taken. But a fair exchange was impossible, Hatch said, since no other land in Utah had a trillion dollars worth of clean coal.

Rep. James Hansen, R-Utah, pointed out that a large portion of the coal-rich Kaiparowits Plateau within the monument belonged to the children of Utah. When Utah became a state in 1896, about 220,000 acres were set aside for development, and a trust fund was created to collect and hold all the revenues directly for the benefit of schools.

Margaret Bird, trust officer for the fund, said that because the land will not be developed, the schools stand to lose as much as $1 billion over the next 50 years. Phyllis Sorensen, head of the Utah chapter of the National Education Association, called Clinton's action a "felonious assault" and "stealing from the schoolchildren."

Stealing from children to reward Indonesian billionaires. How pathetic.
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Old 04-11-2014, 15:31   #9
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The State of Nevada should exercise imminent domain power and kick everybody off of the land.
Including the turtles.

Such an action would reveal the true motives of all the involved parties.
We don't need no stink'n motive..

http://www.infowars.com/breaking-sen...f-bundy-ranch/

Maybe Harry Reid does??
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A couple sites to explain what the uproar is all about.

http://www.infowars.com/breaking-sen...f-bundy-ranch/

http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-con...s-2834896.html
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I agree with JJ_BPK. I smell Harry Reid. It is not a very well kept secret that Harry Reid grabs land at every opportunity...
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Brush has a point. The rancher has been paying Nevada land use but not the Federal Government. What you're seeing from the reaction (or some might say over reaction) of the people is due to a history of the Federal Governments land grab out west.

You might recall when Pres. Clinton established the Grand Staircase Escalante. This also forced ranchers and their cattle off the public lands that they had been using for generations. The BLM went so far as to round up all the cattle and move them to Salina, a town about 100 miles from Escalante to auction them off. We're talking about the BLM taking the ranchers cattle and selling them before any due process. The people from Escalante showed up at the auction with cattle trailers and started loading them up. The BLM told the local sheriff to stop them. He asked what do you want me to do shoot them?
The big ruckus occurring right now, is the Bundy's think the Feds have been rounding up the cattle on the land, killing them and then burying them in mass graves.

Hence the back hoe and dump truck in the video from yesterday.

There is also another BLM "land grab" issue playing out down in Texas.

Reports are also coming out of the protest area, that police are pulling people heading to the protest area over and illegally seizing any weapons they have in their possession.
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I agree with JJ_BPK. I smell Harry Reid. It is not a very well kept secret that Harry Reid grabs land at every opportunity...
Funny you should mention that ...

These stories have been popping up all this afternoon.

http://www.infowars.com/breaking-sen...f-bundy-ranch/

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Funny you should mention that ...

These stories have been popping up all this afternoon.

http://www.infowars.com/breaking-sen...f-bundy-ranch/

YGBSM - Alex Jones, Mr Innuendo and America's Conspiracy Theory K-Mart. There's a confirmed E5 source.

As for this so-called 'land grab' - this case has been on-going for two decades, and everything I read from sources other than the blogosphere's expectedly hyperbolic OMGOMGOMG self-proclaimed real 'merican defend the hearth bloviating say what is happening right now has to do with Mr Bundy's not complying with two separate court orders in regards to his family's issues with the BLM and the public lands he's been using.

I'm sure we'll find out at some point and it'll be interesting - or maybe not so much.

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You can touch this with a 5' pole. Henry Ried and his son is 110% behind this.

http://www.westernjournalism.com/sho...anch-standoff/

They pushed two years ago for the Nevada Land Commision to sell public land to a Chinesee ECC Solar company.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...on-Nevada-Deal

As someone said, follow the money. Nevada needs to be thrown in jail.
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