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Old 09-12-2008, 10:54   #1
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Anybody know these guys?

Inflated bios to match their egos

http://www.closecombatinstructors.co...nce-jordan.htm

Former US Elite Forces Master Chief Instructor. Former service of over twenty years with Rangers and US Special Forces. Jordan has held duty positions such as company sniper, counter terrorist squad and team leader, senior weapons specialist, intelligence and operations sergeant and primary hand to hand combat instructor. He has trained entire commando companies in hand to hand combat for foreign countries, been a covert operator involved in highly classified special operations and has been an instructor to over one hundred law enforcement agencies, including SWAT teams and drug enforcement administration.

Retired U.S. Army Sergeant Major Lawrence Jordan, was selected by former U.S. Army Special Forces Commanding General Frank Toney Jr. to evaluate the vast majority of Special Forces units on their existing CQC programs, Worden's name was at the top of the list.

http://www.closecombatinstructors.co...s-campbell.htm

Charles R. Campbell has practiced and trained in the martial arts for 35 years. He holds black belt or higher ranks in four different styles of martial arts. He has served as an instructor of defensive tactics and close quarter combat for 32 years. The International Close Combat Instructors Association internationally certifies him.

Mr. Campbell specializes in training police officers, and security forces. He holds the following instructor ratings: Karate-Do, Tae Kwon Do, Tang Soo Do, Close Quarters Combat, Handgun Disarming, Handgun Retention, NRA Law Enforcement Firearms Instructor, NRA Firearms Instructor, (Pistol, Shotgun, Rifle), NRA Home Defense, NRA Personal Protection, Advanced Handgun Instructor, Baton, PR24, ASP Baton, South Carolina Certified Concealed Weapons Permit Instructor, FAA Certified Flight Instructor Single and Multi-engine Airplanes, South Carolina Certified Emergency Medical Technician Instructor. Mr. Campbell also holds a South Carolina State Constable Commission and serves as a reserve police officer.

He is a member of the Special Forces Association, Association of Special Operations Professionals, Tactical Response Association, International Close Combat Instructors Association, Japan Karate Association, and South Carolina State Constable Association.

http://www.closecombatinstructors.com/james-webb.htm

US Elite Forces Master Chief. Over twenty years service with the U.S. Army. His qualifications include Special Forces, Rangers, Airborne, Air-Assault, SERE Instructor (Survival, Evasion, Resistance, Escape), close combat instructor to Thailand and Korean Airborne, Korean Rangers, intelligence agent and interrogator. Chief Webb trained the Liberian Presidential bodyguard unit and worked security for the 1988 Seoul Olympics. He is a Vietnam veteran and was awarded the Bronze Star for Valor. Chief Webb is currently working the Missing In Action / Prisoner Of War program in Vietnam. He was an instructor and advisor to the Korean Special Forces, assisting them in developing the White Tiger fighting system used by the Korean Special Forces.

http://www.closecombatinstructors.com/kelly-worden.htm

Kelly S. Worden's Combative Program has been extremely well received through the U.S. Army 1st. Special Forces at Ft. Lewis Washington for the last 5 years. Prior programs include the USAF 62nd Combat Controllers at McCord AFB under the guidance of Col. Michael Vrosh, and countless seminars throughout North America.

The Combative Program Kelly S. Worden currently instructs covers Stick or ASP Baton, Short Staff, Knife, Machete, Improvised weapons, Trapping, Throws, Locks, Non-lethal control, Counter-Grappling, and Kickboxing strategies.

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Old 09-12-2008, 15:00   #2
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There is quite a bio for another instructor, "Doctor Professor" who gets to make up his own uniform, complete with cammy beret and "U.S. Army" above a nametape.


http://www.closecombatinstructors.co...-holifield.htm

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Professor Leonard C. Holifield, C.P.S., Ph.D./MS.

Leonard Holifield

Prof. Leonard Holifield has over 35 years of martial arts experience and is president and founder of I.A.E.P.A. [The International Academy of Executive Protection Agents], I.A.P.M.S.D.T [The International Academy of Police & Military Self Defense Tactics], and H.C.S.I [Holifield's Combat Systems International], organizations that offer specialized training in unarmed self defense for executive security, law enforcement, special operations and military personnel.

Considered one of the country's leading experts in hand-to-hand combat, he is a published author and frequent lecturer on unarmed self-defense, executive protection and military combatives. During his military career he served as Chief Combatives Instructor to the United States Army from 1987 to 1997 and was instrumental in rewriting the Army's manual on Combatives (FM 21-150).

While stationed in Seoul, Korea, he and his team spear-headed a hand-to-hand combat training program that was taught throughout 2nd Infantry Division and 8th Army Command. His positions included Nuclear-Biological-Chemical Specialist, Combat Lifesaver, Master Fitness Instructor, Instructor Certified "H" Identifier, Inmate Labor Supervisor, Tac-Fire Operations Specialist, Military Police Officer and CQC/USD trainer to, Airborne, Air Assault, Air Calvary, Infantry, Field Artillery, (SRT) Special Reaction Teams and Special Operations.

His work in the field of hand-to-hand combat has been featured on AFKN (Armed Forced Korean Network) and in numerous military publications, to include Stars & Stripes, Soldiers, Army Trainer, Korus, and Military Police magazines and has been recognized by top military leaders to include former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Colin Powell, former Army Chief of Staff Gen. Gordan R. Sullivan and former Sergeant Major of the Army - SMA Richard A. Kidd.

In March of 2000, he was voted Most Outstanding Self Defense Instructor by The World Martial Arts Hall of Fame and has received the coveted Executive Protection Award of Valor. A highly decorated veteran of the Gulf War, he was credited with capturing one of the first Iraqi POW's during Operation Desert Storm. He is a defensive tactics instructor and graduate of ESI's (Executive Security International) Advanced Executive Protection Program (AEP) and Certified Protection Specialist (CPS).

In addition to his extensive military background, he has trained in several martial art disciplines, including Judo, Jujitsu, Aikido, Hapkido, Combat Karate, Shotokan Karate, Ninjitsu, Hwarang do, Knife Fighting, Boxing and Grappling. He holds 10th degree, 6th degree, 3rd degree and 2nd degree black belts in Sikaron Karate, Hapkido, Judo and Karate, respectively.

He is the founder of "Fight-Flight or Freeze," a national reality-based women's self defense program and CETA (Close-Engagement Target Acquisition), a fighting system developed specifically for military, law enforcement and security personnel. He is the author of Close Quarter Combat, A Soldiers Guide To Hand-to-Hand Combat, [Paladin Press] and video artist for Panther Productions' best selling Hand-to-Hand Combat series Close Quarter Combat. He has provided close protection for numerous celebrities and is currently serving as Executive Security Officer for the Alabama State Supreme Court and personnel bodyguard to the Chief Justice Roy Moore, aka The Ten Commandments Judge.
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Old 09-13-2008, 06:28   #3
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I remember Jordan. He was with one of the teams going through SOT at Mott Lake back in the day. All I'll say is he was (and apparently is) a competent martial artist.
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If I did know them they would have to cut my head off and put it in a safe
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Old 09-29-2008, 21:40   #5
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Damn...Where's Jim W___

Pretty bold stuff, just thought they're missing one name. Blitz
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Old 09-29-2008, 22:09   #6
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The sites lists:

"Other Members Include:

Blue Curran
Mike Pick
Ron Donvito
Richard Hungerford
Robert Spear
Steve Mattoon
Robbie Robinson

I can vouch for Ron Donvito as being the Close Combat Institute instructor hired by 1st SWTG(A) to train SFQC instructors and some of the SFQC students while I was there.
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Old 10-08-2008, 05:30   #7
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Pretty bold stuff, just thought they're missing one name. Blitz
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Old 10-13-2008, 22:45   #8
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I remember Jordan. He was with one of the teams going through SOT at Mott Lake back in the day. All I'll say is he was (and apparently is) a competent martial artist.
I was training with Myong Mayes & Master-Wolf on Yadkin when I took some classes from him in the Matta-Mile.

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Old 10-13-2008, 16:55   #9
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There is quite a bio for another instructor, "Doctor Professor" who gets to make up his own uniform, complete with cammy beret and "U.S. Army" above a nametape.


http://www.closecombatinstructors.co...-holifield.htm
Welcome to the Danger Zone!
http://www.*******.com/watch?v=w7pmpmDi0YQ

I haven't decided which part of the Doctor Professor's video is my favorite; the dramatic demonstrations or the students attempts at a good warrior stance.
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Old 01-01-2009, 16:50   #10
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I worked with Larry Jordon in 5th GRP in 89-90. He was a martial arts extraordinaire back then and apparently still is. I'll always remember when 1SG Jordon discovered that I played the Guitar. I was soon volunteered to sing Christmas carols with Larry and his wife at the VA Hospital, without practice. Larry sounds like Elmore Fudd and is I believe tone def.

I also worke with Robbie Robinson out at Camp Mackall, he wasn't into alot of martial arts that I recall but was one hell of a fisherman....

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Old 01-02-2009, 08:40   #11
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Myong Mayes!! Now's there's a blast from the past - Did she still have her "ouch stick"?
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I took my Concealed Weapons Permit class from Charlie Campbell. He said he served with SOG in Viet Nam at some point.
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Myong Mayes!! Now's there's a blast from the past - Did she still have her "ouch stick"?
lol

I wonder how many times she whacked Ray with that thing?
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My LTC buddy and I outed James Webb, 3rd guy over in the original set of photos. I worked with him in PACOM and he was touting himself as a "Vietnam Era SF hero now searching for fallen brothers and POWs". After things didn't add up in talking to him, I got my TC involved (verified Long Tabber and Commander of DET 3 in Vientiene Laos at the time. A full investigation was initiated and he had been touting this story for so long that he had everyone running with it. Not only did we out his phony SF stories and status (sole survivor multiple battles CCN; SF Long Tab Status - he was an intel warrant - green beret photo taken while support folks were still authorized to wear it) other than his "martial arts training" all of his martial arts "recognition" claims were also fake...(World Martial Arts Hall of Fame, Kung Fu Hall of Fame, Official redesignation of his legal name to "White Tiger" by the Republic of Korea, Official Grand Master for the ROK Tae Kwon Do school for Korean Special Forces).

Jim did do a great deal to help bring home hundreds of military personnel missing in Southeast Asia as an Investigative Team Leader for Joint Task Force-Full Accounting. Unfortunately, his efforts were tainted by his claims of being Vietnam Era Special Forces and Martial Arts "royalty" to both secure his employment and further his own agenda.

Jim was fired 1 October 2003. He supposedly moved to Pattaya, Thailand where and opened a martial arts school and a bar (two different locations) not far from the TQ2 (Tahitian Queen 2) where we all used to hang out while traveling through Pattaya on mission. I have not heard from him, or about him since my part in his being removed, but was disappointed to find out my suspicions were confirmed at the conclusion of the investigation.
Of course, that disappointment lasted about 10 seconds...but it was there none-the-less.

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A portion of the investigation from 2003...

I must also give a great deal of credit to CSM (R) Joe Lupiyak who was working at SWC at the time and was also instrumental in helping us get this investigation off the ground at the time.

This information was presented to our Task Force Commander. The "Outing Message" to our Commander was also omitted as it was quite personal and rather "flamboyant with rampant emotion" . For PERSEC reasons, I have edited out some of the names and e-mail addresses, it is by the request of the SF LTC who got personally involved with this investigation at my request.
End result, Mr. Webb (aka Fabio) has been offered "early retirement" effective 1 Oct...

Txxxx>
> This was the e-mail I sent Webb's partner (Joyce). I never got an answer back and they shut the web site down the next day
>
> Bxxxx
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cxxxxxxxxx LTC
> > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 11:10 AM
> > To: 'jjoyce@specialforcescombatives.com'
> > Ccxxxxxxxx CW3; Pxxxxxxxxx MSG
> > Subject:I'm interested in SF Combatives
> >
> > Mr Joyce
> >
> > I am sending you this e-mail in my private capacity as a member of the Special Forces Association (D-5922, Chapter 7). A lot of interest (to say the least) has been generated here at SWC by the SF Combatives website. It appears that some of Mr Webb's bio is suspicious---several issues come to mind:
> >
> > 1. No record of his attendance at SFQC during the 81-83 time frame.
> > 2. The only James M. Webb that graduated the Ranger course was a ROTC Cadet from Brigham Young Univ. Class 1-77 (James Matthew Webb).
Possibly your associate used a different middle initial.
> > 3. The obvious questions as to why a MI Warrant would attend HALO, SCUBA, SERE or INTAC.
> > 4. No record of him having served with any SMU (service in these units might explain HALO, SCUBA, SERE, INTAC).
> > 5. His status as an "inductee" to the World Martial Arts Hall of Fame. His is not listed on the existing Web Site (nor among the 2001 inductees).
> > This may be merely an administrative error (not sure who got
inducted in 2002). I have an e-mail out to the Hall of Fame to confirm his status. .(His confirmation was later DENIED)
> >
> > To avoid people questioning your SF credentials it might help if you provided your Ranger Class number and SFQC attendance dates (believe the web site said you were an 18E). I'll confirm your attendance an dispell any allegations to the contrary here at Bragg.

If we cannot substantiate any of Mr Webb's qualifications I plan on contacting Jimmy Dean (National President of the SF Association) and providing our concerns to him.

> > This is cut/paste from the SF Wall of Shame Wannabe's Web Site:
> >
> > JAMES WEBB: Graduated from high school in 1971, but claims to have been with SOG. That would mean that he would have had to complete BCT, AIT, BAC, and SFTG in a little over a year in order to make it to SEA in order to be assigned to SOG. Highly improbable, not to mention, NO record of any SF assignments were located.
> >
> > Xxxxxx CXXXXXXX
> > LTC, SF
> > Deputy Director Xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > (910) 4xx-xxxxxxxx
> > email: xCxxxxxxx@soc.mil
> >
>
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> Txxxxxxxx
>
> 1. This guy is unbelievable. Bottom line. he never attended SFQC, MFF or any other course that I can verify here at SWC. I called the Ranger department on 21 January 03. I am willing to bet that he did not go I cut/pasted this from my 21 Jan e-mail "I contacted the Ranger Department (SFC Sitzler) this morning. Only one James M. Webb has graduated from the
> Ranger Course(a Cadet from Brigham Young--Class 1-77). Other James Webbs may have gone, but only one James M. If we can get his SSN or a firm class date I can check again."
>
> 2. I checked with the MI school and several CI agents I know. None of them know him (I bet he was an all-source Intell Warrant).
>
> 3. His web site claimed that he was a member of the world martial arts hall of fame. That is B.S. We checked the web site. He claimed to have invented the Korean Special Forces Martial Art--what the hell would the Koreans need a gringo to teach them to be Karate-men. He claimed to have been.
>
> 4. No one from 1 SFG can remember him (pretty remarkable for the head Martial Artist in Group). He claimed to have served in Thailand with SF. I checked with several 43rd Co Alumni. No one ever heard of him. One guy (Steve Shoup) brought in his yearbook from the year that Webb claimed to have been in Thailand. He is so secret that we could not find him.
>
> 5. He claims Bronze Stars and tells Vietnam stories don't seem
possible. It may have happened, but I am willing to bet it did not.
>
> 6. He shut his web site down after Phil Provencher, Jeff Dahlby and I began to question his credentials. Tell him to provide dates/class numbers and I will track it down. If he is real I will inform Jimmy Dean at the SF Association, but I bet he does not provide anything concrete. He may be a gifted Karate-man, but I am willing to bet he was never in SF other than working in the Grp/Bn "2" shop.
>
> 7. I have a whole folder (58 e-mails) titled "Wall of Shame" with his stuff in it.

Though Jim being a Poseur has grossly affected his professional relationship with me and now others...I will say that he has done tremendous work in the recovery effort for POW / MIA's in Vietnam. I honestly believe that he has been telling these stories for SOOOO Long unchallenged, that he could probably pass a lie detector test on them. He believes them now to that level.

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