Old 10-03-2007, 19:46   #46
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You gotta be shittin' me....
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Old 10-03-2007, 21:10   #47
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For those of you who received the message stating your Billing Address is incorrect when placing an order on line. I finally talked to some at CRY and had it explained to me. CRY has a more strict security system since they were hacked a while back.
The system CRY uses sends a shot back to your Bank verifying the Address. But some Cards or Banks don't except these double checks because of their own strict security measures, BOA for one. Cant bitch about my Bank being careful.
All you have to do is call your Bank or card and tell them to except the CRY verification. Or talk the person you are talking with to call. Especially if your oconus and calling is difficult. After this you are good to go as long as you use the same Card.
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Old 10-04-2007, 05:49   #48
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Multicam was initially designed as the Scorpion pattern under the Land Warrior project. Because of this, I would imagine that some of the basis of the rumor starts from here. Will it be an Army uniform? Given the amount of money spent on the ACU. I highly doubt it. The Army has gone so far as to authorize all soldiers to be issued, free of charge, 12 sets of ACU's during the course of the career. Personally, it doesn't matter who many sets they issue, a POS uniform is still a POS uniform that only works in a gravel pit.

There are elements within USSOCOM who have said no to the ACU and switched up. One of the reasons why Crye has a hard time filling commercial orders. Several additional elements have made the request to USASFC and USSOCOM to make the switch and it resides at one of those G/J "insert number here" levels. The final question is will someone sign off on it. I have a set I took to A-stan and they work great. When we got home, we ordered material from Crye and built guille's out of it.
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Old 10-04-2007, 06:54   #49
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I like their stuff, but think it is way too expensive.

The ACU is a POS, was known to be a POS while in development, and continues to be an expensive POS.

I do not like the uniform itself, or the camo pattern, even if it was free issue, and in many cases, it isn't.

IMHO, the LW BDU/DCU, especially the modded version, is superior in all respects, unless you are flying a desk and need to change something to put on your report card.

In my world, I would make the modified BDU in Crye camo on 100% cotton poplin ripstop, and be done with it. That would be much more utilitarian than the ACU jammies, and a much better camo pattern as well, in almost all environments.

Agreed that with what the Army has spent already, and the cost to both the soldiers and the Army to change the clothing bag, the ACU is going to be the Army issue uniform for a long while. And that is a shame.

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