04-12-2012, 05:58
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Harris wins $400m contract to replace legacy U.S. SpecOps radio equipment
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04-12-2012, 07:59
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There is a GOD!!!
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replacement program that aims to swap out Special Operations Command's legacy AN/PRC-148 Multiband Inter/Intra Team Radio (MBITR) and AN/PSC-5D Multi-Band/Multi-Mission Communication Terminal with the newer Harris AN/PRC-152(V) 5/6, AN/PRC-152A(V)1/2, and AN/PRC-117G
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Finally Thank you to higher powers. Even tho SF is the last SOF element to go all Harris.
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04-12-2012, 08:40
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Harris contract
The 400 mil is for all of SOCOM. We USASFC got about 30 mil for 152A's and we should be getting a slice for more 117G's. Yes, its about time.
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04-12-2012, 12:07
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Finally! THANK YOU!
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04-12-2012, 18:26
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Now we argue requirements vs allowances and when SOCOM cuts the pie the ODAs will get 60% of what they really need. At least it'll be the right 60% (for a while). No - that wasn't pink and yes - I am disgruntled.
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04-12-2012, 19:06
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They are still a generation behind where they should be (Harris), but this is SO much better than Thales.
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04-12-2012, 19:07
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Originally Posted by Peregrino
Now we argue requirements vs allowances and when SOCOM cuts the pie the ODAs will get 60% of what they really need. At least it'll be the right 60% (for a while). No - that wasn't pink and yes - I am disgruntled.
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Your disguntled....try being the 18E trianing developer for the 18E committee....
Seems folks forget about us in the BOIP...
However, we just got three shiny (well matt sand shiny) 1165's with all the radio internals and accoutraments...been along time coming. Only 4 yrs since it was in the '08 POI...
Hat's off to Pat O'Brien for helping out...with the "shortcuts"..
We also have gotten recently, VIC-3's, 117G's, JEM's, and we're gonna start mooching for 150's and ROVER's...
FBCB2 has been added along with DAGR...whooo hooo...we're finally gettin somewhere...
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04-12-2012, 22:43
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Originally Posted by Peregrino
Now we argue requirements vs allowances and when SOCOM cuts the pie the ODAs will get 60% of what they really need. At least it'll be the right 60% (for a while). No - that wasn't pink and yes - I am disgruntled.
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Meanwhile, other elements in SOCOM will get 185% of what they need.
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04-15-2012, 21:37
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Just issue everyone iPhones, and download Voxer. 400 bucks a pop and Voila!!!
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04-15-2012, 21:46
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I was just talking with a group of PJ's who have the 152s already. Their consensus was that they preferred the 148 as the 152 was heavier and tends to heat up and they had some waterproofing/water related issues with it as well. Needless to say, they have both and are still using the 148s.
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04-15-2012, 21:57
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Its been our experience that the 152 tends to run SAT Voice better, but that's pretty subjective.
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04-15-2012, 22:31
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Originally Posted by Papa Zero Three
I was just talking with a group of PJ's who have the 152s already. Their consensus was that they preferred the 148 as the 152 was heavier and tends to heat up and they had some waterproofing/water related issues with it as well. Needless to say, they have both and are still using the 148s.
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Interesting, Ive had 3 different JTAC's since the start of our rotation and they have all said the opposite. Ive noticed extended battery life on the 152's(even better if you can get one of those fancy extended battery warrior packs), they are made by harris so they are superior to the thales made 148's. They are better suited for satcom. Only issue I have seen is trying to get parts for them.
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04-16-2012, 04:47
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Originally Posted by Papa Zero Three
I was just talking with a group of PJ's who have the 152s already. Their consensus was that they preferred the 148 as the 152 was heavier and tends to heat up and they had some waterproofing/water related issues with it as well. Needless to say, they have both and are still using the 148s.
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2010 we worked with conventional USMC and used their 152's. I would have to go along with what Whitetip1115 is saying. Yes a bit heavier, but a far superior radio than the 148. 117 had always killed the PSC-5.
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04-18-2012, 07:47
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152's and 150's
The 152A's are currently the better radio. The comment about PJ's having 152's is correct, the 152's do heat up and then tend not to transmit no more than 50 meters. The new radio is the 152A, hence the Alpha after the 152. It has more waveforms and capabilities so there fore it is far better. The reason we went with the MBITR versus the 152 in the beginning was due to SCM which allowed you to speak while jammers are on, ofcourse with the help of your DAGR and RCU. The JEM's currently have internal gps. Now we have ASCM and if you dont know you better get on it. For you guys that are planning a PMT, get a hold of JOE Calderara @ 910 396-1191. These are the guys that will train you on the newest jammer and ASCM. Yes Harris is on the ball but Thales is trying to make a comeback. The are testing the MBITR2. it is a 2 channel radio. I have the info if anyone is interested.
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Glebo, we came in to some 150's and are planning to send to 1/1st and 1/10th. I am pretty sure we can push something your way.
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04-18-2012, 09:25
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Originally Posted by MtnGoat
2010 we worked with conventional USMC and used their 152's. I would have to go along with what Whitetip1115 is saying. Yes a bit heavier, but a far superior radio than the 148. 117 had always killed the PSC-5.
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HPW with it's Outlook interface is what made the 117F better than the PSC-5.
Unfortunately, HPW only really works on Harris stuff and is address based. The new PDA-184 software from DISA is IP based, works on almost every radio platform and is free to government users.
The transistion from HPW to PDA is meeting resistance, but will probably happen eventually. I prefer PDA-184 because it works cross platform, ie and MBITR can pass data to a 117F and PSC-5, so it pretty much does away with stovepipe'd systems.
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