Social behavior scores

[Old Dog New Trick]

Originally Posted by Badger52

What was that? 1984 wasn't supposed to be an instruction manual?

Funny you mention that. As I read this thread I’m struck by other similarities where art imitates reality or reality is exposed as an unbelievable truth. Many other movies and books have been produced and written as “science fiction or fiction” only to be or become non-fictional truths. Enemy of the State, Minority Report, Clear and Present Danger, The Handmaids Tale, to name a few movies. Too many dystopian novels written over the last one hundred years that with a tweak or two become real life events taken out of context or put into context to fit the narrative.

Did the NSA spy on US citizens...yes it did or still does. Same for all the other alphabet agencies. Usually it takes court orders to violate a persons 4th Amendment protections but then here comes google, Facebook and so many social media applications where people openly share their personal information and link social contacts with the click of a button. Once upon a time if you wanted to find someone you had to at least know where to start looking just to find the right phone book and for $10 more you could opt out and remain anonymous. Barring your name isn’t John Smith or Robert Jones.

The government has created the “matrix,” it pays or invests in private sector business to collect public and private information that it can use to control what people will do. Be that how to spend ones money, what to think, who to vote for, where to assemble for a cause you weren’t interested in until recently.

“1984” maybe Orwell was more right than wrong. Maybe with the imaginations of H.G Wells, Bradbury, Phillips and others the people we have elected to positions of power have only used those imaginations to further their control of power over the people.

Looking at the creators and CEOs of Facebook, google and other start up app makers (code writers) for social media they aren’t all that smart beyond the ability to write computer code. They took an idea created a message board with tentacles that reach out in all directions to connect and control data. They sell advertising space to get rich and just like commercials on TV advertising has met desire.

Zuckerburg and the Indian “IT” dweebs at google will one day all shit their pants and cry uncontrollably in a safe space when they have to face the realities they are responsible for. All the mass shootings, suicides, hate and intolerance, the elections their lies have swung one way the other for or against.

We were warned!

[Box]

I dont like referring to "the state" as the bad guy.

"The State" is the last bastion of free will left on this planet - leftists and progressives attempting to CONTROL the state are the enemy.

The State works just fine when all it does is establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, and promote the general welfare.

Everything else borders on overstepping their usefulness.
But the state is still the good guy as long as liberal and progressive democrats along with their rockefeller-republican cohorts are kept away from the steering wheel.

[tonyz]

Most any tool is only as “good” as it’s user...do you use too much electrical power? Heat too high, AC too low?

”If you think our privacy is compromised now, just wait. Until there's some legislation passed to protect our privacy, there's no stopping companies such as Google and Facebook from learning everything about what we do and who we are and selling the information to advertisers, insurance companies, and eventually, any entity that will pay. After all, that's their business model.”

Google Reveals Plans to Monitor Our Moods, Our Movements, and Our Children's Behavior at Home
PJ media
BY PHIL BAKER NOVEMBER 24, 2018

Patents recently issued to Google provide a window into their development activities. While it’s no guarantee of a future product, it is a sure indication of what’s of interest to them. What we’ve given up in privacy to Google, Facebook, and others thus far is minuscule compared to what is coming if these companies get their way.

These patents tell us that Google is developing smart-home products that are capable of eavesdropping on us throughout our home in order to learn more about us and better target us with advertising. It goes much further than the current Google Home speaker that’s promoted to answer our questions and provide useful information, and the Google-owned Nest thermostat that measures environmental conditions in our home. What the patents describe are sensors and cameras mounted in every room to follow us and analyze what we’re doing throughout our home.

They describe how the cameras can even recognize the image of a movie star’s image on a resident’s t-shirt, connect it to the person’s browsing history, and send the person an ad for a new movie the star is in.

One patent, No. 10,114,351, reads, “According to embodiments of this disclosure, a smart-home environment may be provided with smart-device environment policies that use smart-devices to monitor activities within a smart-device environment, report on these activities, and/or provide smart-device control based upon these activities.”

So clearly they want to monitor us and report back what we are doing.

It goes on to describe an example in the usual patent legalese. But it’s worth providing here the exact description for you to see, in particular, the last sentence:

By way of example, the high-power processor 20 and the low-power processor 22 may detect when a location (e.g., a house or room) is occupied (i.e., includes a presence of a human), up to and including whether it is occupied by a specific person or is occupied by a specific number of people (e.g., relative to one or more thresholds). In one embodiment, this detection can occur, e.g., by analyzing microphone signals, detecting user movements (e.g., in front of a device), detecting openings and closings of doors or garage doors, detecting wireless signals, detecting an internet protocol (IP) address of a received signal, detecting operation of one or more devices within a time window, or the like. Moreover, the high-power processor 20 and the low-power processor 22 may include image recognition technology to identify particular occupants or objects.
In other words, the goal is to track us throughout the home — observing who is in each room, where we are moving, and what we are doing.

What’s of note is the patent that was awarded to one of Google’s star teams, associated with the development of the Nest thermostat — a breakthrough product with a microphone.

When Amazon first introduced their Alexa speaker, and Google followed with their own speaker, security experts warned that these devices could be turned around to spy on us, and that’s exactly what appears to be happening. While there are many good uses for adding sensors for home automation, the danger comes when they are being monitored and used by outside companies with an insatiable desire to know everything about us.

But there's even more. According to The Atlantic:

A second patent proposes a smart-home system that would help run the household, using sensors and cameras to restrict kids’ behavior. Parents could program a device to note if it overhears 'foul language' from children, scan internet usage for mature or objectionable content, or use 'occupancy sensors' to determine if certain areas of the house are accessed while they’re gone— for example, the liquor cabinet. The system could be set to 'change a smart lighting system color to red and flash the lights' as a warning to children or even power off lights and devices if they’re grounded.
“The language of these patents makes it clear that Google is acutely aware of the powers of inference it has already, even without cameras, by augmenting speakers to recognize the noises you make as you move around the house," The Atlantic wrote. "The auditory inferences are startling: Google’s smart-home system can infer 'if a household member is working' from 'an audio signature of keyboard clicking, a desk chair moving, and/or papers shuffling.' Google can make inferences on your mood based on whether it hears raised voices or crying, on when you’re in the kitchen based on the sound of the fridge door opening, on your dental hygiene based on 'the sounds and/or images of teeth brushing.'"

If you think our privacy is compromised now, just wait. Until there's some legislation passed to protect our privacy, there's no stopping companies such as Google and Facebook from learning everything about what we do and who we are and selling the information to advertisers, insurance companies, and eventually, any entity that will pay. After all, that's their business model.

https://pjmedia.com/trending/google-...rens-behavior/

[bblhead672]

It's threads like this that make me ponder whether a CME or EMP event wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing......

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by tonyz

Planting damaging electronic shit and then publishing it...leaking it...investigating it...

Nasty, nasty potential in the wrong hands regarding this whole matter.

Along that slant, one of my brothers and my Dad are constantly tweaked by stuff they watch on CNN or absorbed through their social circle. My question to them is always what makes you believe that? Their answers always involve 'Everyone says so ', CNN and why would the media lie....They both are extremely excited each and every time Trump is on the verge of impeachment.

I love when people in my area talk about how much worse the weather is now compared to 30-40 years ago. How do you know? The weatherman said 6" is the most snow ever recorded! BS......we had 10"-14" here in the 1970's and 80's. It's hotter than it has ever been! More BS. How long have you lived in the area? Most have not lived here even close to 20 years.

The 2016 election....all my friends and family were pretty sure Trump was going to lose. With the exception of a sister and my Dad, all were voting for Trump and very excited about Trump. The vast majority of people I worked for were voting for Trump though most thought things weren't looking good. Their uneasiness about the election was largely due to media coverage and polling planting the idea that Trump was lagging far behind.

Right now, Jim Hoft at Gateway Pundit is spinning that Kevin Yoder and Kris Kobach lost their elections in Kansas due to election fraud. That is not the case, they lost because because they lacked a solid message. Yoder didn't have a solid stance, he knee jerked his way to a loss. Breitbart absolutely hammered Yoder. Kobach lost because he ran a crappy campaign and allowed himself to be painted as Sam Brownback......there are a lot of people outside of Kansas who actually believe Kobach was Governor of Kansas and responsible for the budget troubles.

The vast majority of the people I interact with watch either Fox News or CNN, they read WSJ, NYT and/or the local bilge known as the KC Star and listen to NPR, Hannity or Rush. Some might venture out to USA Today, Newsweek or Time. Few if any expand to sources such as Breitbart, Media Matters, The Gateway Pundit, The Conservative Tree House, Politico, Daily Caller, The Hill, etc.....let alone PS.com, Laura Loomer, John Salomon, Sarah Carter, etc.

It's easy to plant those nuggets of falsehood when you limit your sources.

[tonyz]

Originally Posted by Paslode

It's easy to plant those nuggets of falsehood when you limit your sources.

And, a sophisticated plant of a false allegation (or incriminating information) has one spending an inordinate amount of time and maybe BIG money merely denying that falsehood.

Spending even bigger money and even more time to accomplish the difficult task of proving you did not do something. Especially, if due process is dead or on life support.

The current environment is ripe for some potentially serious problems.

[Box]

Say things enough and the unwashed masses will accept them as truths.


Yellow journalism has been the "bread and circuses" of the modern empire for over a hundred years.
Hell, I cant say it enough - the media gives a prize named for one of the founding fathers of yellow journalism - getting a Pulitzer Prize is a career achievement.

Of course, those people prefer to use the term tabloid journalism to sneer at 'The National Enquirer' and 'Weekly World News' - but the truth is, I have as much faith in the existence of 'Jo-Jo the Dog Faced Boy' as I do the existence of exploding Chevy pickup trucks.

The problem is - when a faction (ANY FACTION) decides that your freedom to "call bullshit" on these clowns needs to be curtailed - or in this case - you need to be assigned a 'social score' that illustrates your willingness to look the other way when the government (or media) is overtly full of shit.

The little kid in the 'Emperors New Clothes' would have been tarred and feathered under the current rules of liberal-groupthink

But then - 65 million aMEricans took the trouble to vote to prove that are eager to go down this road...

[tonyz]

Originally Posted by Box

But then - 65 million aMEricans took the trouble to vote to prove that are eager to go down this road...

65 million...65 friggen million...65 million thought BIGGOV Klinton (who cheated to beat the communist in the primary) that Klinton...the one who characterized Americans as “irredeemable” and “deplorable.”

Any doubt that Klinton (or any of her currently most likely successors) would happily assign a “score” to American citizens - it’s certainly more benign (and easier to sell) than calling you irredeemable or deplorable. Besides...she’s just trying to “get your mind right.”

“Shakin’ it here boss...”

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by WarriorDiplomat

Google and others have been doing something similar for years with their analytics programs and the sale of this data to the business world....

Exactly. The chinese are way behind. Google, fakebook and faketube et al have been collecting your data since you first started typing on the computer. Only way to stop the craziness, get off the internet.

Change your phone number once a year and your email, 5x a year.

Get off the internet.

[WarriorDiplomat]

Originally Posted by tonyz

65 million...65 friggen million...65 million thought BIGGOV Klinton (who cheated to beat the communist in the primary) that Klinton...the one who characterized Americans as “irredeemable” and “deplorable.”

Any doubt that Klinton (or any of her currently most likely successors) would happily assign a “score” to American citizens - it’s certainly more benign (and easier to sell) than calling you irredeemable or deplorable. Besides...she’s just trying to “get your mind right.”

“Shakin’ it here boss...”

I suppose if I was super duper busy and the only news I watched was CNN and MSNBC I too might believe they were merely defending her from the mean heartless dishonest conservatives who take things out of context....like they do with Trump....if I had never been a soldier and watched the priorities change in watching terrorists groups to containing the countries Obama and Hitlery enabled like China, Russia, Mahgreb region, Iran, and our new support of the only other nation (Israel) it seems that keeps us informed on and also distrusts the middle eastern Muslim crazies. Or was not aware of the Clinton ascension, the rape charges on Bill or the racists comments both made throughout their time in Arkansas or the not so transparent evil in her presence......oh jeeez forget it the sheeple are so stupid and brainwashed that when they see a video they believe it was an actor and the whiole thing is a smear campaign against poor Hillary because she is a woman....I think.

[WarriorDiplomat]

Originally Posted by Badger52

It's not just searches. If you have a Gmail account, and I have one I keep as a "burn" account on which nothing goes that's important, the TEXT of your emails is read* & used by Google immediately. Send a note to a friend, mentioning some type of "thing" (that you wouldn't use in a million years or haven't used in decades), explaining a bit about it, and wait for the ads for THAT to pop up, absent any searches for it.

* besides going fully to the big data repository at Never Say Anything due to their hooks into the Telco central offices and through the most powerful domain name-servers... owned & run by Google.

What was that? 1984 wasn't supposed to be an instruction manual?

Remember when we thought the "conspiracists" were crazy to believe in conspiracies? or when the name conspiracists became a bad name to label someone. I have to admit it but it appears the one world government and big brother are legitimate fears all it takes is a step back and look at the progression of things.....I knew about analytics programs from years ago at least 10+ yrs ago I was suspecting that those little helper ads were not accidental but the FBI cyber analysts confirmed it then I can only imagine what the world of computer geeks have concocted as far as futuristic population control measures.

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by WarriorDiplomat

I can only imagine what the world of computer geeks have concocted as far as futuristic population control measures.

Think autonomous.....like drones, tanks, planes and Cyborgs like the Terminator.

[Requiem]

Originally Posted by tonyz

In one embodiment, this detection can occur, e.g., by analyzing microphone signals, detecting user movements (e.g., in front of a device), detecting openings and closings of doors or garage doors, detecting wireless signals, detecting an internet protocol (IP) address of a received signal, detecting operation of one or more devices within a time window, or the like. Moreover, the high-power processor 20 and the low-power processor 22 may include image recognition technology to identify particular occupants or objects.

In other words, the goal is to track us throughout the home — observing who is in each room, where we are moving, and what we are doing.[/url]

I can see this being used by employers to monitor their employees every moment on the job. Evaluations would be based on what the monitoring device has recorded about your productivity according to number of keystrokes typed, time in the chair, phone calls answered, cups of coffee consumed, bathroom breaks taken, and so on.

S.

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

Get off the internet.

And "Moscow Rules" when you are.

[tonyz]

Originally Posted by Requiem

I can see this being used by employers to monitor their employees every moment on the job. Evaluations would be based on what the monitoring device has recorded about your productivity according to number of keystrokes typed, time in the chair, phone calls answered, cups of coffee consumed, bathroom breaks taken, and so on.

S.

Concur. Calls centers essentially monitor much of this already.

“The Internet of things...”

The Borg will know and share your data...for what use? Who interprets the data?...some snot nosed little bureaucrat ?

Health insurance premiums.
Life insurance premiums.
Auto insurance premiums.
Mortgage rates.
Utility rates.
Water rates.

Entire categories will be created with silver, gold and platinum type ratings...the nightmare of identity politics with even more BS subcategories.