02-25-2009, 11:13
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Originally Posted by phantom1984
I hold Black belts in what my instructor called Ninjutsu (don't really know if he was telling the truth or not)
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Ummmm...probably not a real good indication of your training, or teacher, if you can't trust what your "instructor" gave you a ranking in.
I'm just sayin... 
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12-21-2010, 08:01
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...with the new Army...
Curious to see if with the new "unlimited recruiting" will there now be "Bitch slapping", "Hair pulling" and "Face scratching" included in Military H2H.
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02-06-2011, 05:12
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Originally Posted by Broadsword2004
So I wasn't sure if it warranted starting a new thread or not, but I was wondering, is there such a thing as actual "knife fighting?" Like as in two guys, each armed with a knife and nothing else, go at it and battle each other?
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Going back in time to the use of sharp rocks. Probably as many "systems" exist as do sharp rocks.
IMO, you should just learn where to cut and cut first.
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02-06-2011, 09:37
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Originally Posted by Broadsword2004
So I wasn't sure if it warranted starting a new thread or not, but I was wondering, is there such a thing as actual "knife fighting?" Like as in two guys, each armed with a knife and nothing else, go at it and battle each other?
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Not if there is a loaded gun around.
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02-06-2011, 10:05
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
Not if there is a loaded gun around.
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Or a baseball bat or big f#%king stick!
At Camp Mackall, our instructor ("Hand-to-Hand" Martin) used to insist that God invented sticks and rocks for just that purpose - to avoid "hand-to-hand" combat!
My step-father, who didn't teach me much - save for some pool, golf, and what beers NOT to drink - did tell me that "a knife is just something someone will take away from you and hurt you with." (Of course, he was in the Navy, so...)
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02-06-2011, 10:10
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Originally Posted by ZonieDiver
Or a baseball bat or big f#%king stick!
At Camp Mackall, our instructor ("Hand-to-Hand" Martin) used to insist that God invented sticks and rocks for just that purpose - to avoid "hand-to-hand" combat!
My step-father, who didn't teach me much - save for some pool, golf, and what beers NOT to drink - did tell me that "a knife is just something someone will take away from you and hurt you with."
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Especially in Apache Territory. And underwater.
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02-06-2011, 15:13
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Originally Posted by Broadsword2004
So I wasn't sure if it warranted starting a new thread or not, but I was wondering, is there such a thing as actual "knife fighting?" Like as in two guys, each armed with a knife and nothing else, go at it and battle each other?
Edit: Here is an interesting article I found, seems such systems do exist, but they are very dangerous: http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/knifelies.html |
Filipino Martial Arts do a lot of blade on blade training. You can search youtube for Pekiti, Sayoc, Atienza Kali, Dog Brothers for a look at guys going knife on knife. (Oh wait, I didn't see your edit. FWIW, these are the guys that the article you linked to argues against.)
Point taken about having a loaded gun. I carry, and I used to figure, as I think most do, that I'd be fine against an unarmed person. However, Southnarc and his crew have shown that just having a weapon isn't enough. In his force-on-force drills (called 'evos'), the bad guys take the gun away frequently.
Watch what happens 3 seconds into this video. http://www.vimeo.com/1072283
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02-13-2011, 16:24
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Would one have the chance to test and be ranked(level 1-4) in "Army Combatives" before getting out of 11b AIT? I have been heavily involved in studying, teaching, and competing in martial arts for over 16 years. I currently help train up-and-coming MMA wanna-be UFC guys who are about 18-25. I can not wait for the H2H parts of basic and AIT and the opportunity to become certified in army combatives and maybe even compete in some army tournaments. I'll be 27 by time I'm out of OSUT and it's fun teaching the "young" guys a thing or two.
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02-14-2011, 07:52
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Would one have the chance to test and be ranked(level 1-4) in "Army Combatives" before getting out of 11b AIT? I have been heavily involved in studying, teaching, and competing in martial arts for over 16 years. I currently help train up-and-coming MMA wanna-be UFC guys who are about 18-25. I can not wait for the H2H parts of basic and AIT and the opportunity to become certified in army combatives and maybe even compete in some army tournaments. I'll be 27 by time I'm out of OSUT and it's fun teaching the "young" guys a thing or two.
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Might be "fun" learning a thing or two, as well.
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03-17-2012, 12:20
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Started learning Kyokushin Karate when I was 12 just earned my Shodan(1st dan Black) in December under the IKO1 system.
I know a former QP from the 10th group through a forum who is now running his own school,very nice guy.
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03-17-2012, 12:23
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Started learning Kyokushin Karate when I was 12 t earned my Shodan(1st dan Black) in December under the IKO1 system.
I know a former QP from the 10th group through a forum who is now running his own school,very nice guy.
After all these years I still believe one should be strong in the basic kicks,punches,blocks,locks and throws.No flashy stuff like jump kicks,kata,aikido throws(seagal).
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03-17-2012, 12:38
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Growing up, I was always the youngest kid in my peer group - usually 2 years younger - and thus usually the smallest - until I caught up in college. I was in at least a fight a week from 2nd grade till 8th, when I started taking martial arts. Spent a lot of time in the Principal's office but usually wasn't the one getting the licks. 
I'm not sure what happened, maybe it was the way I carried myself or the look in my eyes that changed, but I haven't been in a fight since.
1st dan Black - Tae Kwon Do (Ku Ki Kwan), and Browns in Judo and Hapkido.
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03-17-2012, 12:40
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Growing up, I was always the youngest kid in my peer group - usually 2 years younger - and thus usually the smallest - until I caught up in college. I was in at least a fight a week from 2nd grade till 8th, when I started taking martial arts. Spent a lot of time in the Principal's office but usually wasn't the one getting the licks.
I'm not sure what happened, maybe it was the way I carried myself or the look in my eyes that changed, but I haven't been in a fight since.
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Did you go to South Korea for the test?
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03-17-2012, 12:45
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Did you go to South Korea for the test?
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No, I was living in NY at the time and tested there. My sensei was S Korean and had been a Silver medalist in Judo in the Olympics - at least that's what he told us. Neat guy. But could really kick your ass if he got irritated.
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03-17-2012, 12:47
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No, I was living in NY at the time and tested there. My sensei was S Korean and had been a Silver medalist in Judo in the Olympics - at least that's what he told us. Neat guy. But could really kick your ass if he got irritated.
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That is very nice,the US I must say has some of the best teachers in possibly all the martial arts styles.
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