07-05-2016, 12:04
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If there was nothing criminal taking place, why did Brian Pagliano need a grant of immunity from the FBI in their "criminal" investigation. Why did Pagliano, and other aides, invoke their 5th amendment rights during the Judicial Watch civil case depositions? That's a lot of ass covering for simple carelessness.
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07-05-2016, 12:17
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"...To be clear this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions but that’s not what we’re deciding here..."
Some people are just above the law.
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07-05-2016, 12:18
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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
Hillary Clinton is above the Law!.....
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The FBI Director explicitly said so today:
"To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now."
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07-05-2016, 12:58
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FBI Director James Comey, corrupt bottom-feeding scumbag
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07-05-2016, 13:23
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Comey admits that she was grossly negligent, which is the only standard mentioned in T18, but invents a new standard not mentioned in T18 "no intent to violate the law".
We truly are a nation of men, now, not laws. If you have power and influence you have a different set of rules than the rest of us.
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07-05-2016, 13:28
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The Constitution had a nice run there for a while.
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07-05-2016, 13:28
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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
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Also from Thomas Jefferson:
"Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry."
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07-05-2016, 13:31
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So now ignorance and laziness are a valid defensive strategy. I guess Democrats everywhere are now safe.
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07-05-2016, 15:12
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I'm sick over this news...but echo the sentiment...
Hillary Clinton is above the Law!
Hillary Clinton is above the Law!
Hillary Clinton is above the Law!
Hillary Clinton is above the Law!
Hillary Clinton is above the Law!
Hillary Clinton is above the Law!
Hillary Clinton is above the Law!
Hillary Clinton is above the Law!
Maybe, the people will essentially indict her with a vote for Trump.
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07-05-2016, 15:13
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As mentioned previously here by (1VB)compforce , and of particular note, taken directly from the FBI's press release:
"From the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the State Department, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time; and eight contained Confidential information, which is the lowest level of classification. Separate from those, about 2,000 additional e-mails were “up-classified” to make them Confidential; the information in those had not been classified at the time the e-mails were sent."
"Only a very small number of the e-mails containing classified information bore markings indicating the presence of classified information. But even if information is not marked “classified” in an e-mail, participants who know or should know that the subject matter is classified are still obligated to protect it."
Bear in mind that she only turned over about half of her emails, the rest being withheld as "personal and private." So who knows what security breaches those emails contained. But just looking at the fact that 110 emails contained confidential or greater security level information at the time they were sent, and that only a small number of those did not have their security level indicators stripped from them... That alone is enough evidence that she should be prosecuted under Section 18 U.S. Code § 793...
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07-05-2016, 15:21
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I just shake my head at this. Not because I'm surprised at the outcome, but because it's obvious the spirit of the law and the process to enforce it are subservient to the whims of the very privileged, very few.
I'm tired of being trampled on.
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07-05-2016, 15:25
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You guys don't get it. Don't you see the TRANSPARENCY in this whole charade. The HMFIC (Director) of the FBI just stood behind the podium of the best and most integrity defined Federal Law Enforcement agency in the free world, and said: "Nothing to see here, move along!"
He will be publicly supported by his Chief the AG and will someday receive his "Freedom Medal" for outstanding public service to the country and the President.
Transparency indeed. You could see the puppet, but not the strings. The show must go on...the script is written in blood.
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07-05-2016, 16:00
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Something needs to be done.
There is no voting our way out of this.
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07-05-2016, 16:02
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So I guess them classyfieded emails just magically got on her unclas server.... Definitely nothing going on here.
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07-05-2016, 16:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Dog New Trick
The show must go on...the script is written in blood.
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And here is where the play takes the willing audience.
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