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Trump/Pence 189 77.14%
Clinton/Kaine 12 4.90%
Johnson/Weld 21 8.57%
Jill Stien 1 0.41%
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Old 09-08-2016, 09:25   #31
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Many of our past presidents where veterans, which works out much better as a prerequisite for being Commander in Chief
...should be a pre-requisite to vote.

I'm not a military Veteran, and I would gladly give up my right to vote for such a system.

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it generally brought us together rather than dividing us and regardless of the party represented the people's interest as opposed to individual political interests.
...it did, and it would, no doubt. What you touched on is from a time when most men (and many women) were or had been in the service, meaning most had a semblance of good character, responsibility and judgement.

Whether Trump or Hiltery is elected, IMO, if we as a country don't get back to a time where voters, and our leaders, ALL had skin in the game, the system will remain corrupt. The voting pool is corrupt...in morality and fidelity.

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Old 09-08-2016, 09:33   #32
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For your consideration

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr1IDQ2V1eM

Solid evidence.
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Old 09-08-2016, 10:12   #33
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John Kerry has military experience.

I don't think too many of us would like to see him as POTUS.

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Old 09-08-2016, 11:46   #34
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John Kerry has military experience.

I don't think too many of us would like to see him as POTUS.

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I concur on that, TR.

I was coming at it from a test of character standpoint, and as a volunteer. No draft.

I can imagine a lot of the progressive-commie ilk, be they voters, leaders, pundits, strategists, etc., would baulk at the thought of true service to their country, as a minimum standard for the franchise; thus eliminating many of them from steering the ship.

It wouldn't be a perfect system. I hazard to think that it would be better than what it's become.

Perhaps those who earned the responsibility to vote might actually cherish it and be protective of it, like all of us here do.

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Old 09-08-2016, 11:55   #35
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...should be a pre-requisite to vote.

I'm not a military Veteran, and I would gladly give up my right to vote for such a system.
This completely contradicts our claimed founding principles of individual liberty.
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Old 09-08-2016, 11:58   #36
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This completely contradicts our claimed founding principles of individual liberty.
The Founding Fathers had high standards for those casting a ballot. Being a land owner was one.
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Old 09-08-2016, 12:22   #37
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John Kerry has military experience.

I don't think too many of us would like to see him as POTUS.

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I certainly agree there and it appears to be the case with several others as well. Not everyone is an Eisenhower and surely he wasn't perfect, the times and values have changed but it would be better for us all to put more value into things like ethics, integrity, service, etc... For all leadership in general, those qualities seem to be diminished in this day an age.
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First REAL debate tonight ...

If Trump can "keep his cool" and rattle the Hildabeaat, he could come out with a pretty good swing upwards in the polls.
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Old 09-26-2016, 12:13   #39
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Yes, I'm pretty pumped for the viewing.

Gonna go out to dinner, have a good meal, come back, pour a glass and savor.
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Old 09-26-2016, 14:28   #40
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I am going to need to create a ball pit in my living room in case there are any triggers during the debate.


...and come November, they are going to need to put ball pits outside of the polling stations to keep peoples stress levels down
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OMFG, who prepped Trump? That MF should be shot! They psyched profiled him and made it personal, he goes off the rail, like the NG on his 1st ambush.

Its just stupid, let him unwind on a planetary live feed level...I want to puke....
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OMFG, who prepped Trump? That MF should be shot! They psyched profiled him and made it personal, he goes off the rail, like the NG on his 1st ambush.

Its just stupid, let him unwind on a planetary live feed level...I want to puke....

I never see much point in these debates, it is all about who can make the best argument and has little to do with truth and actual implementation.
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Its all about impressions, who has "leadership" qualities and can be calm under fire.... Trump is too emotional, and can not associate fact to argument, he's a NG at this time.....

Would not want him as my PL....
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Its all about impressions, who has "leadership" qualities and can be calm under fire.... Trump is too emotional, and can not associate fact to argument, he's a NG at this time.....
I hear what you saying, but you know that Hillary is a slick, conniving liar. If you know that going into it, and after 90 minutes have the impression she has proper leadership qualities and is better suited for the big chair.....we're screwed.
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when she attacked him on the ^ chapter 11 he files, he should have said, you Known nothing about business, YOU HAVE NEVER MET A PAYROLL, in fact, you have only been paid by tax payers like me!!!!

DONE!
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