05-09-2005, 10:29
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JPH,
That is a good idea and it works - for civilians - do you really think a soldier should be wandering around in the woods reeking of sulfur?
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05-09-2005, 10:31
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Will putting it on top of the skin above where the bastards are work also?
I don't have them, BTW.
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I'm not following here. The idea is to cut off their air so they retract their teeth.
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05-09-2005, 10:45
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Excellent point, I use a lot because I am not hiding from anyone… I was only thinking that a very small amount could be used with out the smell on feet and stuff. Only a professional would know if it smells more or less that normal multiple-day BO and if it would compromise anything. If anyone has any experience with this, let us know if this is a feasible idea. And if it wont work in the field, then it still works on your weekend backpacking trips with the kids.
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05-09-2005, 10:49
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JPH,
That is a good idea and it works - for civilians - do you really think a soldier should be wandering around in the woods reeking of sulfur?
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Good point!
Only if it is from gunpowder.
Actually, the Chigg-Away works pretty well. I would stay off the veterinary Tick and Flea collars and the like, they have some nasty side effects.
Ticks have the nasty habit of dropping on you from elevated vegetation when you pass by, so they do not always climb up the boots, but I would consider putting bug juice and Chigg-Away on the outside of the boots to take that out of the equation. If you have to try a tick and flea collar, I would put it on the outside of my boot at the ankle, never in touch with skin.
The self-checks and buddy checks are the best way.
TR
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05-09-2005, 11:28
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I spend some time on a Tick farm in Arkansas. We use Coulstons with Permethrin. I don't know what the current military issue is, the Coulstons you spray on your gear, let it dry and it will work( the label says for 2 weeks). I have stayed tick free using it for days before reapplying.
We use nail polish and tweezers when we need to extract. Just be thorough, as mentioned above.
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05-09-2005, 11:30
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I spend some time on a Tick farm in Arkansas.
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Near the Leech pond?
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05-09-2005, 13:31
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Hey thanks for the advice everyone.
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Originally Posted by mumbleypeg
I spend some time on a Tick farm in Arkansas. We use Coulstons with Permethrin. I don't know what the current military issue is, the Coulstons you spray on your gear, let it dry and it will work( the label says for 2 weeks). I have stayed tick free using it for days before reapplying.
We use nail polish and tweezers when we need to extract. Just be thorough, as mentioned above.
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I'll check into Coulstons.
Say... is it just me or is it just really itchy in here?
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05-09-2005, 13:57
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
Near the Leech pond?
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I didn't start out to be around so many parasites. I just got lucky.
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05-09-2005, 21:36
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I'm not following here. The idea is to cut off their air so they retract their teeth.
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What I was meaning was, would your method still work if you put it on the skin directly above where they are, if they are fully embedded inside. If that makes any sense.
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05-09-2005, 22:13
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Yea Honor, are tick bites suppose to itch after the entire tick is removed? The tick was on my leg for over 18 hours before I discovered why I was itching. I would just scratch at it and go on. (I know it was a dumb thing to do now.) That was on April 23, the itching still comes and goes, less now than a few days ago.
A bath in bleach or finger nail polish will get rid of chiggers.
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05-09-2005, 22:17
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No, go see a Doc or your Medic.
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05-10-2005, 00:29
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I'm not following here. The idea is to cut off their air so they retract their teeth.
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Hello all
If the point s to cut off the air, why not try clingwrap on the area? Not wrap the whole area, but rather pull it tight on the skin to make a temporary seal.
I believe this used in hospitals to get leeches to come up for air, and then do a Henry VIII on them :-)
Seriousely, it may work.
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05-22-2005, 20:28
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ticks
Ticks tend to be bad here in NC and we used to get covered in them out on L.I. too (can you say tick research at Plum Island??)......may parents always used to get Vasiline on them and for the most part they would come right out on their own with no ill effects afterward. The last two ticks I had I pulled out with tweezers (one was in a really bad spot) and both times I had those spots itching for over a week. I am sure that pulling them out with tweezers will irritate the tick as much as anything else and have found that Vasiline is the lesser of two evils. If you are in doubt about whether you can safely remove ALL of the tick, go to the doc so they can get a magnifying lense over it and remove it properly for you.
The one tick I had in the spot I couldn't readily see only was found after I started feeling ill (flu like symptoms) and felt a weird twinge in that spot. I thought I had cut myself shaving or something. If not for the twinge, who knows how long he would have been there. I started to feel better after I pulled it out, but kept the thing in a ziplock bag in my freezer for a few weeks afterward just in case I had to go to the doc. I did identify it as one of the Lone Star ticks that carry Lyme disease. I was lucky that I didn't get sicker. Also, check out this link for tick ID and symptoms of Lyme disease.
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05-22-2005, 20:39
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i still think TR had the best solution...you just want to be selective on bayonet size...
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06-20-2005, 23:17
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Sorry
I am sorry gentlemen but this is seriously cracking me up, I had a similiar situation when I was 10 living with my grandmother who could not help me so she had the neighbor lady come over and remove it, talk about scarring for life, I did not know the neighbor lady LOLOL. The question I have is was it really neccessary to point out (the TICK)
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Put a little nail polish or Vaseline on the little bastard (the tick), then about 15 minutes later, pull him off (the tick) with a slow steady pull. Don't break the head or mouth (of the tick) off.
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And what are SF guys doing with clear nail polish?
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