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Old 03-22-2020, 13:17   #1
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The best victory is to win without actually fighting

"The best victory is to win without actually fighting. Supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy’s resistance without fighting" Sun Tzu

As the world confronts the coronavirus that originate in China, indisputable facts have emerged. If the release is intentional and the strategy is to win without fighting, then there exist a point which would expose intent. By what other means would it be possible to inflect such chaos on a system, where an enemy could harness political discord, MSM, and the total collapse of the financial system, while avoiding the fray, other than the plan release of a pathogen when you were ready to do so, completely overwhelming your enemy?

1. Ground zero location of Coronavirus is Wuhan City, China
2. Several miles from the Market where the coronavirus appeared is One of China’s level IV Military Grade Bio centers.
3. The Chinese leadership knew the COVID-19 coronavirus exist November 2019.
4. Thousands of Chinese and Business/Tourist are infected with the virus.
5. The infected are the instrument of distribution - disseminating the virus worldwide
6. The Virus release is Conveniently at the beginning of the flu season.
7. Jan 7 China announces they isolate the pathogen of the Virus
8. Jan 9-11, China announces the first deaths in Wuhan (People are escape leave Hubei province, 900K by train before the lock down
9. Jan 13, Japan and Thailand Announce they have the Virus and begin screening
10. Jan 17, The USA begins screening.
11. Jan 20, Millions travel for the Lunar New Year
12. Jan 23, China Quarantines Wuhan City and Hubei Province (60 Million ppl Locked down)
13. Jan 24, Wuhan Hospitals system failure/ China commences build 1000 beds by Feb 1.
14. Jan 25, Hong Kong Cancels Lunar New Year stops travel to Mainland China
15. Jan 26, New Cases in USA, Japan, Taiwan, Thailand South Korea
16. Jan 30. WHO Declares World Emergency Pandemic the Virus has spread to all 23 Province in China – India and the Philippines confirm 1st cases
17. Jan 31, Trump bans entrance into the USA by foreign nationals
18. Feb 1-10, deaths increasing – President Xi Jinping does PR
Feb 7, Dr. Li Wenilang who exposed to the world China complicity - coronavirus dies in Prison Hospital
19. Feb 11, WHO announces the virus will be called COVID-19
From this point forward the virus is Global and expanding.

Plausible Deniability Campaign

FEB 27, 2020 China’s state-run China Global Television Network (CGTN) broadcast a segment in which one of China’s most prominent epidemiologists, Dr. Zhong Nanshan, speaking about COVID-19, opined that “the infection was first spotted in China, but the virus may not have originated in China.
https://theprint.in/opinion/china-bl...origin/374557/


Dow

Oct 26th, 2019 Dow open at 24,426 and begins a steady climb to 29,313 Jan 17, 2020
Feb 12, 2020 Dow 29,406 btw Feb 12th and the 19th, market fluctuates 200/300points
On Friday Feb 21, the Market begins its decline, by March 20th, Dow is 19,173. Down 10,000+ points and the slide will continue.


Look back

1988, 1993, 2001 Attacks on the WTC - Goal the Collapse American financial system.
The attacks assumed America’s financial collapse, but after the 1993 attack, Goldman Sachs had built a complete duplicate center in Jersey City, anticipating the need. The market opened September 17th, 2001. One week after the attack. In that sense, the attack failed to meet its goal.

September 21th 2011: Before running for president, Trump tweets “China is neither an ally or a friend — they want to beat us and own our country”.

May 2, 2016: While campaigning for the Republican Party’s presidential nomination, Trump says “We can’t continue to allow China to rape our country and that’s what they’re doing. It’s the greatest theft in the history of the world.” The statement is one of many that Trump makes on the campaign trail about China’s trade practices
November 12, 2019 Trump states the first part of a deal with China could be finalized "soon" but emphasizes that escalations against China would ensue if not. "If we don't make a deal, we're going to substantially raise those tariffs," the president says.

Timelines
https://markets.businessinsider.com/...-1028474486#12 (

https://www.china-briefing.com/news/...ar-a-timeline/
(best to scroll down to the beginning of the timeline.)

May 10th, 2019. Trade negations with china with China end with no deal Trump imposes 25% tariff on all Goods from China.

Day 487: November 1, 2019 – China wins WTO case, able to sanction US$3.6 billion worth US imports

The World Trade Organization (WTO) said Friday that China can impose compensatory sanctions on US imports worth US$3.6 billion for the US failure to abide by anti-dumping rules on Chinese products. The announcement centers on a WTO case that originated nearly six years ago, long before the trade war.

According to news sources, the US is disappointed in the decision and a US official responded by saying that the arbitration panel “overstates the amount of the impact on China” and that the WTO’s approach had “no foundation in economic analysis.”

Day 526: December 13, 2019 – US, China agree to ‘phase one deal’ just before next tariff hike

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Old 03-22-2020, 13:37   #2
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"The best victory is to win without actually fighting. Supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy’s resistance without fighting" Sun Tzu

As the world confronts the coronavirus that originate in China, indisputable facts have emerged.

1. Ground zero location of Coronavirus is Wuhan City, China
2. Several miles from the Market where the coronavirus appeared is One of China’s level IV Military Grade Bio centers.
3. The Chinese leadership knew the COVID-19 coronavirus exist November 2019.
4. Thousands of Chinese and Business/Tourist are infected with the virus.
5. The infected are the instrument of distribution - disseminating the virus worldwide
6. The Virus release is Conveniently at the beginning of the flu season.
7. Jan 7 China announces they isolate the pathogen of the Virus
8. Jan 9-11, China announces the first deaths in Wuhan (People are escape leave Hubei province, 900K by train before the lock down
9. Jan 13, Japan and Thailand Announce they have the Virus and begin screening
10. Jan 17, The USA begins screening.
11. Jan 20, Millions travel for the Lunar New Year
12. Jan 23, China Quarantines Wuhan City and Hubei Province (60 Million ppl Locked down)
13. Jan 24, Wuhan Hospitals system failure/ China commences build 1000 beds by Feb 1.
14. Jan 25, Hong Kong Cancels Lunar New Year stops travel to Mainland China
15. Jan 26, New Cases in USA, Japan, Taiwan, Thailand South Korea
16. Jan 30. WHO Declares World Emergency Pandemic the Virus has spread to all 23 Province in China – India and the Philippines confirm 1st cases
17. Jan 31, Trump bans entrance into the USA by foreign nationals
18. Feb 1-10, deaths increasing – President Xi Jinping does PR
Feb 7, Dr. Li Wenilang who exposed to the world China complicity - coronavirus dies in Prison Hospital
19. Feb 11, WHO announces the virus will be called COVID-19
From this point forward the virus is Global and expanding.

Plausible Deniability Campaign

FEB 27, 2020 China’s state-run China Global Television Network (CGTN) broadcast a segment in which one of China’s most prominent epidemiologists, Dr. Zhong Nanshan, speaking about COVID-19, opined that “the infection was first spotted in China, but the virus may not have originated in China.
https://theprint.in/opinion/china-bl...origin/374557/


Dow

Oct 26th, 2019 Dow open at 24,426 and begins a steady climb to 29,313 Jan 17, 2020
Feb 12, 2020 Dow 29,406 btw Feb 12th and the 19th, market fluctuates 200/300points
On Friday Feb 21, the Market begins its decline, by March 20th, Dow is 19,173. Down 10,000+ points and the slide will continue.


Look back

1988, 1993, 2001 Attacks on the WTC - Goal the Collapse American financial system.
The attacks assumed America’s financial collapse, but after the 1993 attack, Goldman Sachs had built a complete duplicate center in Jersey City, anticipating the need. The market opened September 17th, 2001. One week after the attack. In that sense, the attack failed to meet its goal.

September 21th 2011: Before running for president, Trump tweets “China is neither an ally or a friend — they want to beat us and own our country”.

May 2, 2016: While campaigning for the Republican Party’s presidential nomination, Trump says “We can’t continue to allow China to rape our country and that’s what they’re doing. It’s the greatest theft in the history of the world.” The statement is one of many that Trump makes on the campaign trail about China’s trade practices
November 12, 2019 Trump states the first part of a deal with China could be finalized "soon" but emphasizes that escalations against China would ensue if not. "If we don't make a deal, we're going to substantially raise those tariffs," the president says.

Timelines
https://markets.businessinsider.com/...-1028474486#12 (

https://www.china-briefing.com/news/...ar-a-timeline/
(best to scroll down to the beginning of the timeline.)

May 10th, 2019. Trade negations with china with China end with no deal Trump imposes 25% tariff on all Goods from China.

Day 487: November 1, 2019 – China wins WTO case, able to sanction US$3.6 billion worth US imports

The World Trade Organization (WTO) said Friday that China can impose compensatory sanctions on US imports worth US$3.6 billion for the US failure to abide by anti-dumping rules on Chinese products. The announcement centers on a WTO case that originated nearly six years ago, long before the trade war.

According to news sources, the US is disappointed in the decision and a US official responded by saying that the arbitration panel “overstates the amount of the impact on China” and that the WTO’s approach had “no foundation in economic analysis.”

Day 526: December 13, 2019 – US, China agree to ‘phase one deal’ just before next tariff hike
Interesting as stated before their is a timeline of events that suggests something else....almost right out of the book
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Old 03-22-2020, 13:41   #3
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I edit the intro to argue the fact more succinctly.

An example of intent is item 13. Build out a 1000 bed hospital in 6 days. From an organizational dynamics stand point the scope of that project and marshaling the material and personnel is months in the making, lining up all your ducks.

They were prepared to execute, they knew the possible outcomes and the need, and the PR value of seemingly caring for their countrymen the in eyes of the world. Add it feeds into the plausible deniability feature of their strategy.

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Given the shear depth, breadth and magnitude of damage caused by a “bug”...you can bet every evil fuck in the world (be they state actor or non-state actor terrorist) is paying VERY close attention as to the potential for a future encore performance.
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Given the shear depth, breadth and magnitude of damage caused by a “bug”...you can bet every evil fuck in the world (be they state actor or non-state actor terrorist) is paying VERY close attention as to the potential for a future encore performance.
Yep countries like Russia aren't about to let anyone know if their healthcare system is compromised and overwhelmed or whether or not they have had to quarantine anything not to mention that government is not about to let media and medical community run down its response if any and spread the fear and panic the west has done.....we though NBC was a threat for a long time and then turned to CT 9/11 and ignored it slowly at first now the CBRN(new NBC) guys are probably saying yep as we have studied and suspected is happening or was going to.

Again as you and Penn note the real danger is not containment of the disease nor its spread it is the media spreading fear and panic where we are on the brink of martial law being needed. Other nations such as Russia and China, N. Korea etc.....are taking notice and studying the impact it is having and the inability for the west to handle such an event. Oh well what do I know I was just a knuckle dragger 18B at my peak though a keen interest in the shadowy world of espionage, UW and the sort. If I had been in a different climate I might have been just as happy in the 3 letter agencies AFTER feeling my oats in SF but the ruffian I was made that impossible pre service days
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it is the media spreading fear and panic where we are on the brink of martial law being needed.
The news ended a bit ago with a short presentation with the John Hopkins Map (I believe) giving the growth stats of the Corona Virus since the news earlier in the day. I think it went from 311k to 331k world wide and they had to mention that the US had the 3rd highest death toll without mentioning what the percentage is compared to the overall population. No mention of how many have recovered from Corona, also no mention of the Flu numbers, nor a comparison of the Flu and Corona numbers.

Concerns over PPE, Test Kits, ICU Beds and Ventilators.

Doom porn start to finish.


Not to divert the topic, but how the hell do you have test kits readily available for a virus you do not know exists?
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The news ended a bit ago with a short presentation with the John Hopkins Map (I believe) giving the growth stats of the Corona Virus since the news earlier in the day. I think it went from 311k to 331k world wide and they had to mention that the US had the 3rd highest death toll without mentioning what the percentage is compared to the overall population. No mention of how many have recovered from Corona, also no mention of the Flu numbers, nor a comparison of the Flu and Corona numbers.

Concerns over PPE, Test Kits, ICU Beds and Ventilators.

Doom porn start to finish.


Not to divert the topic, but how the hell do you have test kits readily available for a virus you do not know exists?
Exactly the golden questions that must be asked of the 8 alleged treatments the Chinese have and the testing kits being fielded so quickly.....the Democrats has started to move on this opportunity I see when Pelosi announced that the Democrats would be proposing a relief package not we the government not bipartisan which it started out as....lets also remember Chuck Schumer also has a proposal on behalf of the Democrats
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Old 03-24-2020, 12:46   #8
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Breeching security Mar a Lago Timeline

In April, May, December 2019, and January 31, 2020. Four separate attempts were made by Chinese nationals to breech security at Mar a Lago. The last 1/31/2020, also coincides with President Trump prevents Chinese entrance to USA.


April, 02 2019
• A Chinese woman has been charged with making a false statement to the U.S. Secret Service after entering President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida with a thumb drive that contained “malicious software,” court documents revealed Tuesday.
• A criminal complaint says the woman, Yujing Zhang, was on the property on Saturday, at around 12:15 p.m., while Trump was playing golf at the Trump International course nearby.
• Zhang later claimed to the Secret Service that she was at the resort to attend a “United Nations Friendship Event” between China and the United States, the complaint said. That event did not exist, according to the complaint.

May 05, 2019
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Friday that the recent arrest of Yujing Zhang, the woman who allegedly breached security at President Donald Trump's private Florida club while carrying Chinese passports and a flash drive containing malware, is an example of the threat Beijing poses to the US.
Pompeo declined to provide additional details related to that claim during the interview on "CBS This Morning," but did say, "I think this tells the American people the threat that China poses, the efforts they're making inside the United States, not only against government officials but more broadly."


December19, 2019 Daily wire reported on December 19, “A second Chinese national, again a woman, was arrested trying to trespass on President April, 02 2019
• A Chinese woman has been charged with making a false statement to the U.S. Secret Service after entering President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida with a thumb drive that contained “malicious software,” court documents revealed Tuesday.
• A criminal complaint says the woman, Yujing Zhang, was on the property on Saturday, at around 12:15 p.m., while Trump was playing golf at the Trump International course nearby.
• Zhang later claimed to the Secret Service that she was at the resort to attend a “United Nations Friendship Event” between China and the United States, the complaint said. That event did not exist, according to the complaint.


AP reported, “Jing Lu, 56, was confronted by the private club’s security officers and told to leave, but she returned to take photos, Palm Beach police spokesman Michael Ogrodnick said in an email. Palm Beach officers were called and arrested her. It was determined she had an expired visa, Ogrodnick said.”pose

Jan 31, 2020
On Friday morning, two women who reportedly breached security checkpoints at Mar-a-Lago were taken into custody after shots were fired. WPVF reported, “Two female suspects now in custody after breaching two barricades near the winter White House Mar a Lago on Palm Beach/pursued by FHP — shots fired into the vehicle.” BREAKING: two female suspects

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Interesting as stated before, their is a timeline of events that suggests something else....almost right out of the book
Can you be more specific.

Points of interest are the attempts to penetrate the security of Mar a Lago prerelease of virus.

Pompano remarks.

PR campaign by China with a worked/media ready narrative.
PR Campaign by the MSM to shutter as the only option, with the additional narrative of mismanagement. Morphing, as the administration gains control, to an expanded narrative that putting the country back to work by 4/12 is shortsighted again exampling mismanagement.

How does crushing the economy benefit the Dem's, other then a possible retake of government, if they inherit a crushed economy, are they looking at FDR redo? And, is it possible all these events, including the behavior of Dem leadership, possibly orchestrated, by a conjoined agenda with China vis v The MSM, WHO +China?

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China Virus is potentially a Cloward Piven opportunity on steroids.
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Can you be more specific.

Points of interest are the attempts to penetrate the security of Mar a Lago prerelease of virus.

Pompano remarks.

PR campaign by China with a worked/media ready narrative.
PR Campaign by the MSM to shutter as the only option, with the additional narrative of mismanagement. Morphing, as the administration gains control, to an expanded narrative that putting the country back to work by 4/12 is shortsighted again exampling mismanagement.

How does crushing the economy benefit the Dem's, other then a possible retake of government, if they inherit a crushed economy, are they looking at FDR redo? And, is it possible all these events, including the behavior of Dem leadership, possibly orchestrated, by a conjoined agenda with China vis v The MSM, WHO +China?
I mean left of phase 1 UW OPB type stuff....this phase you would prepare the targeted country with PSYOP's and other methods to assess the support of the operation and/or energize a resistance movements will....PSYOP would begin with radio stations, newspapers, information campaigns etc...then assess the effects and adjust prior to putting [people on the ground for an infiltration....without getting to far into it.....the Chinese in this phase are studying the effects the virus has caused to the infrastructure of western nations specifically the U.S. obviously for them the specific goal is the focal point which seems to be economic.

The Chinese have had their way with the U.S. economy since Clinton started trade deals with them though at the time dealing with them was IIRC forbidden due to their human rights violations etc.....at the time the Chinese were of no threat to western society today they are THE threat and they did this under the noses of Democrats as they were helped along. Trump is the first POTUS to put American interest first and put his foot down with China for over 25 years of course the Chinese want to see him gone in 2020 they also aren't stupid and see another 4 yrs being probable....the operations to damage Trump climaxing with this is of no real surprise....in fact the only real surprise is that China is getting much more bang for their buck out of this.

As far as the slimy politicians called Democrats they seem to be half towards pure socialism....there goal is always dependence on the state going back to the end of slavery, FDR New Deal which started the dependence on government when Social Security began then forward to LBJ's full on welfare reform which wrecked the family when men were replaced as fathers for welfare, womens rights that has seem 60.000.000 + state sponsored murders/abortions since Roe v Wade etc.....the Democrats are moving towards total state dependence as opposed to American independence and resiliency, they have sponsored campaign of fear and panic after campaign of fear and panic for generations the last 2 subjects they have exploited have been global warming and free healthcare(more state dependence pandering).....the Democrats are not letting this opportunity to try and stop Trump for 2020 go it is too good and they are true to their slimy tasteless character are making moves to take advantage as we write this.....economic collapse does not worry the Dems in fact I believe they are so desperate to stop Trump they are willing to see our economy tank just to win 2020....this would be a two fold gift the old Dems do not really want but the younger generation believe in....and that is near total state dependence and the socialism they dream of
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Got it. This not the CP Columbia model. They have place our system of government in checkmate. To prevent financial collapse Trump must accept the outrageous socioeconomic conditions which alter society as we know it. If he and the senate do not accept those terms, there no deal and the economy is halted/implodes, and Trump possibly loses the 2020 election, dependent upon the response of the American citizen.

All the dots connect.

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The USS Theodore Roosevelt taken out without a shot. The whole of the western pacific opens to Chinese navy.


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I edit the intro to argue the fact more succinctly.

An example of intent is item 13. Build out a 1000 bed hospital in 6 days. From an organizational dynamics stand point the scope of that project and marshaling the material and personnel is months in the making, lining up all your ducks.

They were prepared to execute, they knew the possible outcomes and the need, and the PR value of seemingly caring for their countrymen the in eyes of the world. Add it feeds into the plausible deniability feature of their strategy.
I would push back on this one a bit, for the following reasons:

1) In the hardware business, it’s very common to go from paper design to hardware prototype in a single day in China. The speed is strikingly remarkable in an economy optimised for physical goods manufacturing.

2) China has built prefab skyscrapers in remarkably short periods of times(like days, rather than years).

3) After the Battle of the Coral Sea, and in preparation of the decisive Battle of Midway based on Magic intercepts, the USS Yorktown was turned around from a half sunk wreck into a combat capable platform in 3 days.

It wasn’t pretty, but it was just good enough, just in time.

Are we giving too much weight towards premeditation here and not enough weight towards The Will To Win?

The former is less uncomfortable to ponder than the latter isn’t it?
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The USS Theodore Roosevelt taken out without a shot. The whole of the western pacific opens to Chinese navy.


https://www.foxnews.com/us/uss-theod...rs-coronavirus
I wrote this one for US Army TRADOC Mad Scientist Initiative:

https://madsciblog.tradoc.army.mil/2...onment-part-1/

There is risk of China pulling off a hybrid Falklands/Grenada scenario.

How much? Probably very little at the moment, but could rise quickly.

It’s worth mentioning CCP/PLA’s primary concern will likely be regime continuity.

If domestic impact is far more serious than disclosed, and the CCP/PLA finds itself under increasing pressure, than an obvious option is activating nationalism and externalising the problem.

For the same reasons the Argentine Junta invaded the Falklands, but with the same outcome as US action in Grenada.

But with fewer rounds expended.

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Energy prices are something to pay very close attention to.

Low energy prices reinforces a Russia/Iranian nexus, with Venezuela too broke and distracted internally to participate as an effective partner.

Same with other energy producers, particularly high cost ones, ripe for destabilisation by Russia/Iran.

If the current energy price holds, Russia may have a year at most, before it will get fiscally very ugly. And that includes burning its sovereign wealth fund.

I could easily imagine Russia and Iran giving their respective UW forces a hunting license to give energy producers as much of a haircut as possible.

A mate working in Mozambique told me Wagner Group got smacked pretty hard recently there.

And I doubt it’s a coincidence that Mozambique has some truly enormous energy projects underway.
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