02-23-2015, 18:35
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VA Sec Falsely Claims To Be SF
Rut-roh...
WASHINGTON -- Robert McDonald, the secretary of veterans affairs, wrongly claimed in a videotaped comment earlier this year that he served in special operations forces, the most elite units in the armed forces, when his military service of five years was spent almost entirely with the 82nd Airborne Division during the late 1970s.
U.S. special operations forces (SOF) are composed of exhaustively trained and highly capable troops from each military service, including the Green Berets, Army Rangers, Delta Force and Navy SEALs -- but not the 82nd Airborne. They are certified to undertake the most dangerous and delicate missions, including, famously, the killing of Osama bin Laden in May 2011. Special operators are a close-knit community deeply hostile to outsiders who try to claim the coveted mantle of special operations.
McDonald, a retired corporate executive who took over the VA last June as the agency was sinking in scandal, made the claim in late January as he was touring a rundown Los Angeles neighborhood during a nationwide count of homeless veterans. He was accompanied by a CBS-TV news crew, which recorded an exchange between McDonald and a homeless man who told McDonald he had served in special forces.
“Special forces? What years? I was in special forces!” McDonald told the homeless man. That exchange was broadcast in a Jan. 30 CBS News story about the VA’s efforts to find and house homeless veterans.
(Continued: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...ushpmg00000016)
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02-23-2015, 18:45
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We need a FOIA..
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02-23-2015, 18:51
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Really don't need a FOIA, he admits he lied about it....hoist with his own petard but at least he owns it.
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02-23-2015, 19:29
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Brian Williams probably remembers him serving in Special Forces....
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02-23-2015, 20:06
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I guess in context it just proves that the man is perfectly suited for the job.
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02-23-2015, 20:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy L-bach
I guess in context it just proves that the man is perfectly suited for the job.
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Sad but true...his bona fides....
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02-23-2015, 22:27
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Sounds to me like he just "misremembered" ....
No harm, no foul ... right ???
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02-23-2015, 22:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sdiver
Sounds to me like he just "misremembered" ....
No harm, no foul ... right ???
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It's an easy slip to make I'm sure. I know a lot of folks that thought they were also a former member of Special Forces, dozens in fact and they're all mentioned in the Hall of Shame......
I'd like to take each of them on a night HALO from 25k feet full combat equipment and see if that jogs their memory.....
All a bunch of losers, but hey I expect no less for an incompetent administration......
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02-24-2015, 04:57
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02-24-2015, 07:16
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How many out there think this is the first time he's said that. I'm wondering what his resume looks like
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02-24-2015, 09:06
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The new democratic/liberal/progressive/socialist buzz words....
"misstatement"
"misremembered"
These are liberal words and only to be used in actual times of outright lying and only if caught by the media.
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02-24-2015, 09:25
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Well, that explains the 60 people he claimed to have fired that are still employed by the VA. 
He must be friends with John Lovitz....
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02-24-2015, 10:11
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Who was it
I was just listening to the Chris Plante show on a local talk radio station in DC (WMAL), and this topic was being discussed. Several Veterans were calling to voice their opinions on the matter, and one caller, stating he was a former 18B, gave PS.com a free plug (although he referred to PS.com as QuietProfessionals.com.)
He was specifically referring to the 'Hall of Shame' section where guys like the secretary are outed on a regular basis.
I just don't see why McDonald would falsely claim SF other than to further engage in conversation with the Vet in front of the cameras. PR turned BS.
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02-24-2015, 10:14
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To be fair I once told a chick I was a helicopter pilot to get some drawers.
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02-24-2015, 10:17
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Originally Posted by BryanK
I was just listening to the Chris Plante show on a local talk radio station in DC (WMAL), and this topic was being discussed. Several Veterans were calling to voice their opinions on the matter, and one caller, stating he was a former 18B, gave PS.com a free plug (although he referred to PS.com as QuietProfessionals.com.)
He was specifically referring to the 'Hall of Shame' section where guys like the secretary are outed on a regular basis.
I just don't see why McDonald would falsely claim SF other than to further engage in conversation with the Vet in front of the cameras. PR turned BS. |
Google "QuietProfessionals.com" and see what you get..... 
I cannot ever remember "misremembering" what unit I was assigned to during my 20 years......
I have lied to folks though, I've told people I was a "Wendy's manger trainee" and I am traveling to a trainee convention. (That statement is guaranteed to end any conversation dead in it's tracks.)
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