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Old 06-27-2016, 12:16   #16
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No, it does not, although there are many Texans who like to believe that myth and perpetuate it among themselves as a sort of wishful thinking 'common knowledge'...along with the myth that Texas is the 'only' state flag which can be flown at a height equal to the national colors (all state flags may fly equal to but not above) and that Texas may divide itself into as many as 4 other states (a proviso in the Joint Resolution for Annexing Texas to the United States by Congress allowing its admission as a slave state that was later settled by the Civil War and actually moot anyway IAW the provisions of Article IV, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution).

Texas tried that secession idea once and they, along with 12 other states, got their pee-pee's whacked for it, and the reality of such 'right of secession' forever squelched.

But the myths go on.

Richard
I'm betting a liberal Supreme Court would approve it.
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Old 06-27-2016, 14:53   #17
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Ten more good reason to quit the EU:

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REVEALED: The EU's top ten pointless decisions the UK can now get rid of

AS Britain prepares to leave the European Union, Express.co.uk takes a look at the barmy decisions made by Brussels that we can say goodbye to.

By REBECCA PERRING
PUBLISHED: 19:20, Sat, Jun 25, 2016 | UPDATED: 19:27, Sat, Jun 25, 2016

The EU's top ten barmy decisions

Voters demanded the UK untangle itself from the 28-country bloc in a historic referendum that will free the nation of some of Brussels most pointless laws.
17,410,742 Britons voted to quit the EU with 16,141,241 voting to Remain.

Cucumbers and bananas should not be bendy

International ridicule erupted when the EU stated that all bananas must be "free of abnormal curvature".

Under the rules, cucumbers were to be "practically straight" and bent by a gradient of no more than 1/10.

But imperfectly-shaped fruit and vegetables were back on the supermarket shelves by 2009 when Britain opted to reform the crazy rule.

It's illegal to eat your pet horse

In 2009 the EU introduced a law which suggested it was illegal to eat "pet" horses after staggering figures revealed that around two million pet horses are eaten across the EU each year.

Of course some British supermarkets considered themselves well above this law in 2012. The horse meat scandal hit Britain when equine DNA was discovered in value Tesco and Iceland beef burgers. Lidl and Aldi were also rocked by the scandal.

Just remember it's okay to be so hungry you could eat a horse - as long as you don't own it.

Water does NOT prevent dehydration

If you've been on a mighty old work out or you're struggling with a sore heard from a heavy night out, drinking water will NOT ease your pain.

Well, that's according to the EU.

In 2011 they passed a law, which claimed scientists had found no evidence to suggest drinking water stopped dehydration.

This meant manufacturers of bottled drinking water were prohibited from labelling their product with anything that would suggest consumption would fight dehydration.

Prunes will NOT fight your bowel problems

Meddling legislators made it illegal for prunes to be sold as a super food that acts as a laxative.

And after a thorough investigation, the EU ruled: "The evidence provided is insufficient to establish a cause and effect relationship between the consumption of dried plums of 'prune' cultivars and maintenance of normal bowel function"
But anyone who has ever taken part in a 'who can eat the most prunes' competition would surely disagree with this..

Turnips are NOT swede

In 2010 the EU decided to make sure one and all knew the difference between a turnip and a swede.

Now supermarkets are encouraged to avoid confusion when labelling both vegetables.

And this is because locals in Cornwall often refer to their swedes as turnips.

Diabetics should be BANNED from the roads

Up to one million drivers faced losing their driving licenses - because harsh EU experts deemed people with diabetes "unfit" to drive.

The illogical rules were never enforced but ridiculed and mocked widely back in 2010.

Eggs CANNOT be sold by the dozen

Fury erupted when shopkeepers were told all food must be weighed and sold by the kilo - instead of the number contained in the packet back in 2010.

And even though British shoppers can still buy a dozen of eggs, it is now priced based wholly on the weight.

Washing up gloves must be able to handle DETERGENTS

The price of marigolds and oven gloves soared when the EU imposed rigorous testing on these household products to stop people being injured.

Bonkers Brussels deemed it to be important that washing gloves could withstand standard kitchen detergents and oven gloves underwent tests to ensure they could cope under the pressure of 200c heat.

Super vacuum cleaners BANNED

It was as though the British way of life was under threat when the EU looked to target the nation's kettles, toasters and even lawnmowers.

Their plans to erode the lifestyle choices of ordinary people were followed by the banning of the powerful vacuum cleaner.

In 2014 vacuum cleaners, which had motors above the EU limit of 1,600 watts had to go.

But it was all for a good cause because it was in a bid to cut energy usage.

EU in a JAM over preserves

Barmy EU regulators stopped sellers using the word 'jam' on their products if the sugar content was more than 60 per cent.

Instead anything containing less thad to be called a "fruit spread", while a low sugar jam with less than 50 per cent of sugar was named a "conserve".

But lawmakers got themselves out of the sticky situation by relaxing these laws in 2013.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...ons-Britain-EU
Water doesn't prevent dehydration?

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Old 06-27-2016, 21:48   #18
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No, it does not, although there are many Texans who like to believe that myth and perpetuate it among themselves as a sort of wishful thinking 'common knowledge'...along with the myth that Texas is the 'only' state flag which can be flown at a height equal to the national colors (all state flags may fly equal to but not above) and that Texas may divide itself into as many as 4 other states (a proviso in the Joint Resolution for Annexing Texas to the United States by Congress allowing its admission as a slave state that was later settled by the Civil War and actually moot anyway IAW the provisions of Article IV, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution).

Texas tried that secession idea once and they, along with 12 other states, got their pee-pee's whacked for it, and the reality of such 'right of secession' forever squelched.

But the myths go on.

Richard
Any State has the right to secede. You mention Article 4, Section 3 but what about the 10th Amendment? Even if one doesn't interpret the 10th Amendment literally, it is obvious that we believe in consent of the governed. I will go so far as to say that even if a State government had ratified a Constitution that forbade secession, the People of that State would still have the right to secede and establish a new State government. If you disagree, then the premise of our original revolution was unjustified.

Three Amendments were ratified immediately after the Civil War but none of them forbade or had anything to do with secession, so it still remains unmentioned in US law. The original Preamble gives us insight to how the Founders felt about this. The only reason it said "united States" was because they were not sure if every State would ratify, therefore instead of the awkwardness of having, say, Rhode Island mentioned in a Constitution it didn't support, Governour Morris went with "united States" at the last minute.

The Federalists of the day shrugged it off while the Anti-Federalists threw a fit. As Patrick Henry said in Virginia shortly thereafter, "I have the highest veneration of those Gentlemen,--but, Sir, give me leave to demand, what right had they to say, We, the People. My political curiosity, exclusive of my anxious solicitude for the public welfare, leads me to ask who authorised them to speak the language of, We, the People, instead of We, the States."

You, like Richard Taylor believe that the "arbitrament of arms" settled this question. Most do not, especially where it matters in this discussion, Texas.
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