01-18-2005, 15:22
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How much time in your unit before SF?
Hello-
My name is Phil, and this is my first post, so I'll briefly introduce myself. I'm a 20 year old college student majoring in Mass Communications with a Concentration in Audio / Visual Broadcasting. I'm also minoring in History as well as Speech Commnuication (English & Arabic).
How long did you all serve in your units before applying to SF? I'm posting in this forum because I would one day like to be apart of the 5th SFG, my apologies if this question is in the wrong forum. Thanks in advance,
-Phil
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01-18-2005, 15:25
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I applied the day after I arrived in my first unit.
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01-18-2005, 15:51
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Two years.
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01-18-2005, 18:19
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I was never non-SF. I applied in BAC.
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01-18-2005, 19:18
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After 6.5 years as a 12B...I quickly came to my senses after my first three months as a Platoon Sergeant. I enjoyed being a Squad Leader for the most part, but as a Platoon Sergeant I hated being cooped up doing administrative stuff.
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01-18-2005, 19:23
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Three years before applying to SF.
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01-18-2005, 21:07
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3 years plus 20 months as a civilian to let the 82nd forget my name.
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I applied the day after I arrived in my first unit.
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LOL 
Another one for quote of the year!
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01-18-2005, 21:35
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[QUOTE=NousDefionsDoc]3 years plus 20 months as a civilian to let the 82nd forget my name.
Ditto 3 years with the Jumping Junkies and 24 months as a sillyvilan.
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01-19-2005, 08:40
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2 years in the 101st.
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01-19-2005, 13:19
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5.5 years
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01-19-2005, 15:21
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Originally Posted by Grendel
Hello-
My name is Phil, and this is my first post, so I'll briefly introduce myself. I'm a 20 year old college student majoring in Mass Communications with a Concentration in Audio / Visual Broadcasting. I'm also minoring in History as well as Speech Commnuication (English & Arabic).
How long did you all serve in your units before applying to SF? I'm posting in this forum because I would one day like to be apart of the 5th SFG, my apologies if this question is in the wrong forum. Thanks in advance,
-Phil
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You are talking about enlisting in the Army? You say you are in college; I assume you are not in ROTC or considering applying for OCS out of college? If you were an officer the course is pretty much set. You have to be a 1st Lieutenant promotable (1LT(P)) to apply for SFAS and have completed your branch's captain's career course before going to the Q course. So that's about three years there.
If, based on the Arabic study, you think you might enter the Army as a linguist or MI soldier, there is a chance you could get assigned to 5th Group in a support position right out of your initial entry training. That might help you decide whether it is the life for you. Based on your major, there is also psyop.
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01-19-2005, 17:14
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Originally Posted by Airbornelawyer
You have to be a 1st Lieutenant promotable (1LT(P)) to apply for SFAS and have completed your branch's captain's career course before going to the Q course.
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Not exactly.
After SFAS, we now send all officers to the Infantry Captain's Career Course prior to attending Phase II, few if any attend their own CCC due to the time line involved.
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01-22-2005, 09:14
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5 years in the 82nd. Almost 4 years before I went to selection and then I had to wait almost another year before the Q.
That was the most enjoyable year of my life, I was taken off all the school rosters immediately upon return (to included BNCOC, so I couldn't get promoted) and my wonderful BN CSM tried to take my squad from me.
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01-22-2005, 09:59
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Originally Posted by rudelsg2
5 years in the 82nd. Almost 4 years before I went to selection and then I had to wait almost another year before the Q.
That was the most enjoyable year of my life, I was taken off all the school rosters immediately upon return (to included BNCOC, so I couldn't get promoted) and my wonderful BN CSM tried to take my squad from me.
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Unfortunately, that happens a lot, especially with the 82nd.
Some Brigades are worse than others, but I suspect that it has always been that way, ever since COL Bank picked his first team.
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01-22-2005, 11:25
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Is there any upside to having your squad taken over by somebody else in that last year?
Since I do not have the experience, this obviously is probably not how it works, but the thought I had was that the presence of the previous leader who shows respect and helps integrate into the group the new squad leader, could thus get the team homestead with the new leader faster and, perhaps, further motivate (by the presence of another one pushing ahead).
I understand that there can be other nasty happenings during the wait or application, but another thread was pretty thorough on that.
Please disregard this if it is a dumb question.
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