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Old 01-04-2006, 10:49   #31
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Too bad someone who knows what he's doing doesn't step forward and help make the writing on this topic in the firearms publications better.

Until then it's going to all stay the same.
Sadly, honesty and advertising dollars don't mix. I do like reading Clint Smith's pieces though.
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Old 01-04-2006, 10:53   #32
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Sadly, honesty and advertising dollars don't mix. I do like reading Clint Smith's pieces though.
I wish that Clint wrote as well as he teaches.

He also tends to endorse certain products for financial reward.

He is one of the best instructors in the country though.

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Old 01-04-2006, 11:28   #33
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I wish that Clint wrote as well as he teaches.

He also tends to endorse certain products for financial reward.

He is one of the best instructors in the country though.

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One on One with Clint $1700...

One on one with the Team Sergeant = free (only if you're a cop or military...)

Teaching a little female police officer (in two hours) to outshoot her husband, who is also a veteran police officer, priceless......


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Old 01-04-2006, 11:47   #34
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I learned more from a Range Officer / Assistant in one of my classes than from the more 'famous' instructor. The Range Officer was an analytical sensing engine who could observe, process, and give specific feedback on what changes to make. Full duplex.
I need to nitpick a little here. Are you sure you were interacting with the Range Officer, or was he an Assistant Instructor? A Range Officer's job is to run the range and ensure the overall safety and operation of the same, not to be interacting with students and providing instruction while the firing line is hot. The NRA would be very unhappy if it was as you described it.
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Old 01-04-2006, 14:33   #35
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If he wasn't doing both jobs at once (alternating with someone else between jobs), life is good. If his duty was to be overseeing range operations and he was instead focusing on instructing students, he was in the wrong as far as the NRA training system is concerned, and risking the safety of those firing on his range.
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Old 01-05-2006, 08:57   #36
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You’d be surprised that many have no training in weapons but instead their training is in advertising weapons related products. TS

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I got to remember that one. About sums it up perfectly. Great and accurate comment.

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Old 01-05-2006, 12:05   #37
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You’d be surprised that many have no training in weapons but instead their training is in advertising weapons related products. TS

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I got to remember that one. About sums it up perfectly. Great and accurate comment.

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Example of bad marketing (God I hate this, I love the weapons....I really do)

Advertising people just don't get it.

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Old 01-05-2006, 23:50   #38
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Team Sargent, having cleaned out my ears and focused my attention on the frontsight (no fuzzy edges), this evening I went from 12 plus inches to 6.5 at 20 yards. My journey begins.
Frontsight
Frontsight
Frontsight
Frontsight
Squeeze
breathe
Frontsight
Frontsight
Frontsight
Frontsight.........

I am in repeat mode.
Thank you Sir, I am weeding out the fluf meisters and their ideas.
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Old 01-06-2006, 08:41   #39
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Team Sargent, having cleaned out my ears and focused my attention on the frontsight (no fuzzy edges), this evening I went from 12 plus inches to 6.5 at 20 yards. My journey begins.
Frontsight
Frontsight
Frontsight
Frontsight
press
breathe
Frontsight
Frontsight
Frontsight
Frontsight.........

I am in repeat mode.
Thank you Sir, I am weeding out the fluf meisters and their ideas.

That's:

"frontsight, frontsight, frontsight, squeeze........."

A 50% increase in accuracy with only a few minutes on the phone…..

You should see what I can do in person….

Wait till you get my bill….

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Correction noted!
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Old 01-06-2006, 09:41   #41
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oh great zen master TS....don't forget to teach that shooting is a perishable skill......one must practice again and again. You had me dry firing for days and days which turn into weeks and months, and now this grasshopper can (fairly routinely) put holes through holes. Bad for terninal wound ballistics, good for precision education....I thank you for your in-person education...worth every penny!!
At $250/hr, you should be letting Doc T retire soon....LOL. This almost compares to RL's hourly fee??????
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One .45 round through the left or right eye will end 99.999% of all gunfights, we don’t call it surgical shooting for nothing.

Once an individual has a firm grasp on marksmanship everything else is gravy. Fact is over 95% of shooters/instructors I've seen have a very weak grasp of marksmanship. Most will blame everything except their “firearms instructors”. and these "firearms instructors" will blame everything except their lack of marksmanship knowledge.

I'll bet you guys can tell me a few "reasons" you shot a larger than normal shot group and what your "firearms instructors" said to fix the problem…..

I could probably think of at least a dozen or more…

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Gonna resurrect this thread with a question.

Anyone have experience with this Training facility or courses?

http://www.warriorschool.com/

I work with one of the key men that owns and runs this facility, just wonder if I should save my money and take some of his courses. I know his background is solid and he is a legit SOF vet, I'm just wondering is this of value? Money is not an object when it comes to good training. Especially when Uncle Sugar is footing the bill.
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Gonna resurrect this thread with a question.

Anyone have experience with this Training facility or courses?

http://www.warriorschool.com/

I work with one of the key men that owns and runs this facility, just wonder if I should save my money and take some of his courses. I know his background is solid and he is a legit SOF vet, I'm just wondering is this of value? Money is not an object when it comes to good training. Especially when Uncle Sugar is footing the bill.
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Warrior School founder Jeffrey Prather is a son, father, husband, warrior, artist, author, actor, soldier, special agent, student, and teacher. A US Martial Arts Hall of Fame member, he holds 13th-degree black belt, master rankings in Budo Taijutsu (Body Skills), and Shinken Gata (Real Combat), from Grandmaster Dr. Masaaki Hatsumi. He also apprenticed under the late N'dee (Apache) holy man Phillip Cassadore Besh Koon singing in the Naiies (Sunrise) ceremony.

Prather served on active duty with the 7th Special Forces as well as domestically and abroad as a federal Special Agent and national government Intelligence Officer. He is rescue team qualified, a Federal Firearms Instructor, Distinguished Pistol Expert, and a member of the International Association of Law Enforcement Firearms Instructors IALEF.

http://familydefense.warriorschool.com/fd_contacts.asp

Never heard of him, until now.
I've no comment until I have seen him instruct.
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Old 02-02-2006, 11:35   #45
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Hatsumi is the Sensei of "American Ninja" Stephen Hayes. I think "Budo Taijutsu" is what they call the empty hand techniques taught in that particular Ninjitsu school.

NO, I have not studied or trained with any Ninja. Not that I could tell you if I did...
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