Las Vegas strip shooting

[Box]

Its only been a day or so and I am fully spent listening to news about this on TV.

I want to hear news demonizing this asshole.
I want to hear this guy shamed for every single transgression he ever had.
I don't care how obscure or mundane - the media should be highlighting every single solitary fault that this lifeless sack of guts has ever exhibited.
Shame the memory of this fuckstain SO BAD that people will cringe away from this type of notoriety......

Speeding ticket in 1971 ?
...this guy has a history of driving recklessly

Returned a library book 3 days late back in 1966 ?
...irresponsible prick with a lifelong disregard for rule of law

Premature ejaculation with a 5 dollar hooker in 1972 ?
...hahahaha this punk was a three-pump-chump



Instead, I have to listen to mindless chatter about gun laws in Australia and expert testimony by a legion of "Walter Mitty" commandos as they prattle on about bump stocks and armor piercing bullets.

Lets not seek out solutions - lets keep the ratings up and advance 'the agenda'


I want to hear words like COWARD - MURDERER - LOW LIFE
instead all we get is a talking head, happily reading off the inventory list of shit found at the guys house

All the while - the same half of the political spectrum that tells us that North Korea having nukes is an existential threat that we need to get used to, is the same half of the spectrum that thinks America should disarm its citizens.


To paraphrase George Orwell, If you want a picture of what the American 'left' would do to Americas freedoms, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—for ever.....



So quoth Rahm Emmanual, "never let a good crisis go to waste"

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by Streck-Fu

It has united the liberals into proclaiming this is the fault of Republicans/Conservatives/Gun Owners for not allowing a ban after Sandy Hook. Anything else and you are part of the problem.

Respectfully, they were already pre-disposed to that. The decision to jump on it probably occurred at shooting+3 seconds, and the first 2 were for jumping up from the chair with a fist-pump. Make no mistake; the true-believers among them relish this shit. You know, because, "greater good."

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by Dean Jarvis

My money says the shooter was after Trump supporters. Any takers?

It's already beginning to look like that. Some internet sleuths have already determined he was a democrat. Others have posted pictures of him actively demonstrating in an anti-Trump rally.

The news media will not print anything like that until its shoved down their throats. They would rather blame a tool of mass murder rather than the democrat shooter.

[Golf1echo]

I've felt that is the 1200lb elephant in the room DJ. Had he been a Republican or had right wing leanings we would have heard everything about it. The pattern it fits is of the RESIST movement as well as the trigger to do such a heinous act similar to the attack at the softball field.

I have to say this administration has unmasked and made transparent a very large number of people and organizations that are not interested in our REPUBLIC and who work against it on a constant basis. I too tire of the petulant arguments. Box same with the astounding presentations from many under the crown...I see why they have such high quality wool! I can see why their countries have been overrun with attitudes like that.

Edit: I wouldn't be surprised to see that his so called girlfriend/wife who apparently was married to at least one other had some immigration issues? Haven't seen even a blip about that yet...things usually reveal themselves.

[bblhead672]

WaPo Opinion Piece from yesterday: I used to think gun control was the answer. My research told me otherwise.

Before I started researching gun deaths, gun-control policy used to frustrate me. I wished the National Rifle Association would stop blocking common-sense gun-control reforms such as banning assault weapons, restricting silencers, shrinking magazine sizes and all the other measures that could make guns less deadly.

Then, my colleagues and I at FiveThirtyEight spent three months analyzing all 33,000 lives ended by guns each year in the United States, and I wound up frustrated in a whole new way. We looked at what interventions might have saved those people, and the case for the policies I’d lobbied for crumbled when I examined the evidence. The best ideas left standing were narrowly tailored interventions to protect subtypes of potential victims, not broad attempts to limit the lethality of guns.

[tonyz]

Originally Posted by Streck-Fu

It has united the liberals into proclaiming this is the fault of Republicans/Conservatives/Gun Owners for not allowing a ban after Sandy Hook. Anything else and you are part of the problem.

An older article below (and link to the original document to which it refers) that helps explain the unified anti-gun movement - and its overly emotion driven "policy response."

Tragedy's Playbook
by Dave Kopel
America's 1st Freedom, November 2013

“Preventing Gun Violence Through Effective Messaging" is the public relations guide for anti-gun lobbyists and advocates. The more accurate title would have been, "Anti-Gun Hate Speech for Beginners."

Secretly produced in 2012 for New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg's Mayors Against Illegal Guns (MAIG) lobby and its allies, it was recently discovered by gun rights supporters. The gun-ban talking points manual is filled with malicious lies about guns and gun owners, along with instructions for how the manual's readers should disseminate those lies to the public.

"Preventing Gun Violence" even has specific instructions for how to exploit mass murders. "That means emphasizing emotion over policy prescriptions," it instructs. After all, if you start talking about specific "policy prescriptions," then you have to make a credible argument that the policy might have prevented the murders. And that's usually an impossible argument to make. So, according to the playbook, it's better to emphasize emotion, and hope that the emotional aggression will pave the way for the enactment of anti-gun laws regardless of whether or not they would have done any good.

<snip>

http://davekopel.org/2A/Mags/tragedys-playbook.html

http://s3.documentcloud.org/document...uide-pdf-1.pdf

[LarryW]

Anyone else think this maniac was part of a sleeper cell and that his lady friend went to the PI to pass money back to their butt buddies in Mindanao?

I'm a suspicious old shit and I don't buy coincidences.

[TJ11B]

Originally Posted by LarryW

Anyone else think this maniac was part of a sleeper cell and that his lady friend went to the PI to pass money back to their butt buddies in Mindanao?

I'm a suspicious old shit and I don't buy coincidences.

Sounds very plausible to me.

I'd bet money that this POS was a leftist extremist hell bent on killing as many "right-wingers" as he could.

[Old Dog New Trick]

I'm gonna go out on limb here and say...

Of the 30+ weapons, high end scopes, high capacity mags, and all those bump stocks this guy bought this last year, and however more he's bought less recently than that...all but a few of them are brand new, never been fired.

He doesn't seem the type to become proficient in there use.

He was a coward and an addicted gambler...all the pictures of him he seems lit and under the influence of drugs or alcohol and just an overall loser.

My guess is his plan was to create as much hate and fear as possible. His targeting of a country music festival was that a majority of conservatives and Trump supporters would be the intended target and he just didn't care how many lives he destroyed in his quest to "teach us all a lesson." He knew what the outcome would be...Democrats would be eating themselves to push anti-gun legislation even though this asshat would pass every stupid "common sense" thing they can come up with.

I think it will come out through the investigation that he was a moderate lefty who with the help of his GF became a rabid anti-establishment radical as we have seen with the BLM, Antifa and the anti-Trump Leftists.

He's a well educated person who amassed great wealth in the process of living with his demons, but in the end his demons won over...he was still a coward and when it came time to face his challengers he simply decided he didn't want to play and risk spending the rest of life on death row waiting to be executed.

Don't know his motive but what motivated him was President Donald J. Trump. His stockpiling of guns in the hotel room with all sorts of legal attachments and super high capacity magazines plays right into the Anti-Gun movement. He had a plan...he thought this out and executed his plan...he could have kept firing on the helpless victims below but stopped, he could have engaged the police outside his door but chose to suck start a gun before facing that reality.

A coward all the way to the end.

Anyone see an agenda here?

JMHO

[tonyz]

Agree ODNT - this murderer was a degenerate coward.

We will find out more in the coming weeks - the American public deserve to know.

[Guy]

Originally Posted by Old Dog New Trick

He's a well-educated person who amassed great wealth in the process of living with his demons, but in the end, his demons won over...he was still a coward and when it came time to face his challengers he simply decided he didn't want to play and risk spending the rest of life on death row waiting to be executed.

JMHO

Well said!

[Sohei]

Originally Posted by Old Dog New Trick

I'm gonna go out on limb here and say...

Of the 30+ weapons, high end scopes, high capacity mags, and all those bump stocks this guy bought this last year, and however more he's bought less recently than that...all but a few of them are brand new, never been fired.

He doesn't seem the type to become proficient in there use.

He was a coward and an addicted gambler...all the pictures of him he seems lit and under the influence of drugs or alcohol and just an overall loser.

My guess is his plan was to create as much hate and fear as possible. His targeting of a country music festival was that a majority of conservatives and Trump supporters would be the intended target and he just didn't care how many lives he destroyed in his quest to "teach us all a lesson." He knew what the outcome would be...Democrats would be eating themselves to push anti-gun legislation even though this asshat would pass every stupid "common sense" thing they can come up with.

I think it will come out through the investigation that he was a moderate lefty who with the help of his GF became a rabid anti-establishment radical as we have seen with the BLM, Antifa and the anti-Trump Leftists.

He's a well educated person who amassed great wealth in the process of living with his demons, but in the end his demons won over...he was still a coward and when it came time to face his challengers he simply decided he didn't want to play and risk spending the rest of life on death row waiting to be executed.

Don't know his motive but what motivated him was President Donald J. Trump. His stockpiling of guns in the hotel room with all sorts of legal attachments and super high capacity magazines plays right into the Anti-Gun movement. He had a plan...he thought this out and executed his plan...he could have kept firing on the helpless victims below but stopped, he could have engaged the police outside his door but chose to suck start a gun before facing that reality.

A coward all the way to the end.

Anyone see an agenda here?

JMHO

I think you hit the proverbial nail on the head with this post!

[bblhead672]

Originally Posted by Old Dog New Trick

I'm gonna go out on limb here and say...

Of the 30+ weapons, high end scopes, high capacity mags, and all those bump stocks this guy bought this last year, and however more he's bought less recently than that...all but a few of them are brand new, never been fired.

He doesn't seem the type to become proficient in there use.

He was a coward and an addicted gambler...all the pictures of him he seems lit and under the influence of drugs or alcohol and just an overall loser.

My guess is his plan was to create as much hate and fear as possible. His targeting of a country music festival was that a majority of conservatives and Trump supporters would be the intended target and he just didn't care how many lives he destroyed in his quest to "teach us all a lesson." He knew what the outcome would be...Democrats would be eating themselves to push anti-gun legislation even though this asshat would pass every stupid "common sense" thing they can come up with.

I think it will come out through the investigation that he was a moderate lefty who with the help of his GF became a rabid anti-establishment radical as we have seen with the BLM, Antifa and the anti-Trump Leftists.

He's a well educated person who amassed great wealth in the process of living with his demons, but in the end his demons won over...he was still a coward and when it came time to face his challengers he simply decided he didn't want to play and risk spending the rest of life on death row waiting to be executed.

Don't know his motive but what motivated him was President Donald J. Trump. His stockpiling of guns in the hotel room with all sorts of legal attachments and super high capacity magazines plays right into the Anti-Gun movement. He had a plan...he thought this out and executed his plan...he could have kept firing on the helpless victims below but stopped, he could have engaged the police outside his door but chose to suck start a gun before facing that reality.

A coward all the way to the end.

Anyone see an agenda here?

JMHO

Entirely plausible. Although I wouldn't be surprised if some link to others being involved or coercion of some sort.

I'm mildly surprised there hasn't been any parallels drown to the shooter of Republican House memebers, 66 year old James Hodgkinson. Two guys in their 60's with no apparent clues before their acts, both involving planning and surprising their friends and family that they would do such a thing.

[Go Devil]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

It's already beginning to look like that. Some internet sleuths have already determined he was a democrat. Others have posted pictures of him actively demonstrating in an anti-Trump rally.

The news media will not print anything like that until its shoved down their throats. They would rather blame a tool of mass murder rather than the democrat shooter.

I'm a taker.

[Go Devil]

vegas PD audio, 1st hour. 2nd hour available as well.

https://soundcloud.com/alertpage-1/i...ic-las-vegasnv