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Old 06-03-2017, 17:04   #1
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islamic terrorists London - multiple incidents - developing

Incidents in London - developing.

Man hunt launched for three terrorists as men with '12in hunting knives stab pedestrians' after mowing down up to 20 people with a white van amid reports of explosions in third attack in ten weeks

Daily Mail
By Ekin Karasin For Mailonline
PUBLISHED: 17:32 EDT, 3 June 2017 | UPDATED: 19:04 EDT, 3 June 2017

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...on-Bridge.html
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Old 06-03-2017, 18:10   #2
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Another sad day from across the pond. I am sure we will soon be reading how the individuals who committed these acts were all on someone's radar.
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The religion of peace strikes again.

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Old 06-03-2017, 20:44   #6
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Yep, another one

http://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-40147014

Gents, travel ban or no travel ban, we are deluding ourselves if we think these only happen "over there"

It's a matter of when. Practice those IAD and mentally rehearse scenarios. No room for denial/freeze reaction once it starts.

If course, Im preaching to the choir here.


ps. Someone smarter than me suggested wearing the pt belt as identifier from other ccw user and leo after opening fire. Seem ingenious to me and no self respecting jihadi would ever stoop that low taqiya or not
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Old 06-04-2017, 01:22   #7
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I definitely do not want this to happen here, but why have they not tried the same tactics in the U.S? It's low-tech and there is really no way to defend against such attacks. Are they waiting for bigger more spectacular attacks or can they not recruit the right assholes to do the job? It just doesn't make sense to me that they haven't tried it here and I'm trying to understand why they haven't. I am interested to hear your thoughts on this. Thanks.
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I definitely do not want this to happen here, but why have they not tried the same tactics in the U.S? It's low-tech and there is really no way to defend against such attacks. Are they waiting for bigger more spectacular attacks or can they not recruit the right assholes to do the job? It just doesn't make sense to me that they haven't tried it here and I'm trying to understand why they haven't. I am interested to hear your thoughts on this. Thanks.
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I definitely do not want this to happen here, but why have they not tried the same tactics in the U.S? It's low-tech and there is really no way to defend against such attacks. Are they waiting for bigger more spectacular attacks or can they not recruit the right assholes to do the job? It just doesn't make sense to me that they haven't tried it here and I'm trying to understand why they haven't. I am interested to hear your thoughts on this. Thanks.

Who is to say it is not happening here? Seems to me that when it does happen the MSM and the Authorities brush it under the rug ASAP.


For example:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014...oto-and-video/

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Because the citizenry is armed.
Armed or not, they have seen precedence that we will not go gently into the good night. United 93, euro train, garland, and so on.

Which is why I wish Theresa May galvanize the brits with such admonition in addition to the four points tough talks. Fight the cowards.

Hats off to the brave souls who threw objects, distracted the attackers, and escorted people in denial mode to safety. However,

IMHOO, after the first few minutes, the goons lost the element of surprise. Surely there are enough blokes with cojones on that street to split the jihadists jaw on pavement. The train incident was a solid example and it was assault rifle and knives vs. bare hands

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Old 06-04-2017, 10:37   #12
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This is an interesting opinion piece worth the time to read - she gets it - the elites have failed the folks on this issue.

Muslim/Arab refugees should be relocated to Muslim/Arab countries.

There are many more cultural similarities in for instance Saudi Arabia and Indonesia (but Muslim nations know what that means) than in Sweden, England, Germany, Italy and France.


KATIE HOPKINS: You’re right, Theresa. We cannot go on like this. But do you have the balls to do what’s REALLY needed and lock up the 3,000 terror suspects tomorrow?
By Katie Hopkins for MailOnline
PUBLISHED: 07:56 EDT, 4 June 2017 | UPDATED: 10:53 EDT, 4 June 2017

Two weeks ago, in the wake of the Manchester bombing, I mistweeted and it cost me.

Everyone knows what I said and I’m not going to repeat it here.

The wording was horrible. Loaded with unintended meaning. Quickly deleted, amended to make clear, and apologised for live on TV and radio.

I have no excuses. And I take full accountability — disasters, triumphs, I must treat them just the same.

In truth, I woke up to the news of the terror attack in Manchester on our young girls and I saw red. As a mum, I felt fear. And I raged.

And now I am raging again. And now, more than ever, I stand by what I MEANT those words to say. This. Cannot. Go. On.

Whatever we are doing now is clearly not working. We need a radical rethink.
It is a pure rage against a leadership so castrated by fear of offending anyone not specifically wielding a machete or a bomb, that they are impotent to take action.

So frightened someone might cry Islamophobia, they peddle anything but the facts. They talk about 'the evil' that motivated the attacker, they talk about hate. They condemn 'the attack'.

But still refuse to acknowledge the massive elephant in the room. They refuse to acknowledge any link between these attacks and Islamic extremism. Imagining that by failing to give such horror a label, they can somehow mystify it away — and distance Islamic extremism from blame.

Even when ISIS called for these attacks in the ninth, Ramadan edition of their magazine, Rumiyah, urging their supporters to target civilians with edged weapons, firearms, vehicle ramming and fire, in locations such as shopping malls, restaurants and clubs.

Even when an eyewitness, Eric, heard the attacker cry, 'This is for Allah,' we are supposed to swallow the news feed that the motive is unclear.

Decent Brits are capable of understanding that these individuals do not represent all Muslims. (Though it would help us if ALL imams would stand up to denounce unequivocally these attacks committed in the name of their religion.)

But the terrorists do represent a strand of Islamic extremism and the twisted beliefs of ISIS. They are motivated, determined, and not limited by fear of their own mortality.
I say again: we need a lasting solution to terror.

It is urgent. Imperative. We cannot go on like this. No one is carrying on as normal when our own Met police tweet for us to RUN, HIDE, TELL.

Can you kid yourself you are 'carrying on as normal' as you
are evicted from a bar with your hands on your head, running for your life? When our hospitals are in lock-down to protect even the sick from terror, no target is too soft. There is no humanity here.

We have reached the ultimate tipping point, where even the hardy believers have lost hope, and those keen to cling to the narrative 'we stand defiant' are lying heartbroken on the floor. Even the most tolerant liberals are emailing me privately to let me know they doubt everything they believed before, that they can't tell their friends, but we have made mistakes and are paying the price.

But you can take action. You are in control of your truth.

Do not let them tell you we stand united. Do not let them tell you we are not cowed. Do not let them tell you we fight cowardice with British spirit. Do not buy into this propaganda, circulated by those who have failed us, the fascist liberals.

Their words are meaningless.
If this is terror losing, I don't think victory matters. It is time to fight back.

The question is, how do we ensure this never happens again?

Today Theresa May stood outside Downing Street and articulated what everyone feels today. Enough is enough. We can’t go on this way.

What she DIDN’T offer was much concrete to change things on the home-front beyond a crackdown on Islamic extremism, tougher sentences and another assault on the social media giants’ role in allowing terrorists the means of communication and propaganda.
But I’m sorry, Prime Minister, neither of the last two things is going to make much difference at all and the first will only work if you follow through with real, tough action.

Before the Bank Holiday weekend Mark Rowley, the UK’s most senior counter-terrorism officer suggested they’d rounded up much of the Manchester bomber’s ‘network’ and advised us all to: ‘Go out and enjoy yourselves.’

Well that’s exactly what the victims of last night’s attack were doing. Enjoying the multicultural heart of London, drinking and eating. Right up until someone stormed into the restaurant and stabbed them in the face with a 12-inch hunting knife.

We can’t just respond again by organising a benefit concert and waiting for a sympathetic world to light up its landmarks in red, white and blue. We, the British people, the good people of Britain, need to stand united in demanding drastic measures.

Firstly, as Tarique Ghaffur - Assistant Commissioner at Scotland Yard when the 7/7 bombings took place - proposed last weekend, we need to round up the terror watch list, all 3,000 of them, and intern the lot.

And secondly, we need to lock down the 650 jihadis we allowed to return to the UK or get them out. If they went to Saudi or Syria to train, they can go back there. And their passport and right to British nationality hits the incinerator on their way out.

I know all the arguments against internment – the camps become universities for terror, it will alienate other Muslims and help radicalise extremist sympathisers.
And a few weeks ago I’d probably have said that tipped the balance. But we are way beyond that now.

Our security services clearly cannot cope in monitoring all the threats out there against us so it’s time we took the most obvious ones off the streets.

If we breed more homegrown terror, we incarcerate or deport. A or B.

Thirdly, Theresa has to mean what she says about cracking down on extremism.
She has to drain the swamps of hate. That means zero tolerance of the people in the Muslim community peddling this breed of hatred, the ultra-conservative imams, the extremist mosques that encourage new Jihadi recruits to seek vengeance on the British way of life. Close down Saudi-funded mosques, charge ultra-conservative imams; incarcerate or deport.

Do not let the liberals speak to you of protecting British values of tolerance and decency. Many extreme Islamists are fighting against the very values we cherish. They want to oppress and frighten our women and girls indoors. Islamic extremists are at war with our culture. They have no wish to integrate and are proud to live apart in ghettos of extremist hate.

And they signpost themselves clearly. They are not hard to find. They are against the Prevent Strategy. They are the sickening preachers of CAGE, given platform by fawning liberals. They are monsters hiding in plain sight. And they are known to the authorities.
To the police, the politicians, the people in power, I say this: we are sick, SICK, of hearing that these animals are known to the authorities.

Why are we the casualties in a game of war where the human rights of the terrorists are prioritised above the right to life of our baby girls and regular Brits out with their families for a meal and a drink?

Our process for dealing with terror cannot be words or vigils. It must be internment and deportation. And we keep deporting until our house is in order.

And broader than that, we need to rebuild broken Britain into a secular nation that is host to many religions and none. Where true leadership from those who integrate — such as the beautiful Sikh community — is rewarded. And those who seek to carve out enclaves guided by their religious identity are not housed or funded by the British taxpayer.

If leaders think our fantastic emergency services are the ANSWER to co-ordinated terror attacks, they are asking the wrong question. If Sadiq believes, as he said, that voting on Thursday shows we are not cowed, we are scraping new depths of desperation. London Bridge has fallen down on his watch, and the whole world sees us fail.

We are under attack. It is co-ordinated and determined, and the attackers’ own mortality is no deterrent.

It is time to begin the fight back for Britain.

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Old 06-04-2017, 13:46   #13
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Armed or not, they have seen precedence that we will not go gently into the good night. United 93, euro train, garland, and so on.

Which is why I wish Theresa May galvanize the brits with such admonition in addition to the four points tough talks. Fight the cowards.

Hats off to the brave souls who threw objects, distracted the attackers, and escorted people in denial mode to safety. However,

IMHOO, after the first few minutes, the goons lost the element of surprise. Surely there are enough blokes with cojones on that street to split the jihadists jaw on pavement. The train incident was a solid example and it was assault rifle and knives vs. bare hands

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...-incident-live

I was thinking the same,, There are at least a dozen "shops" (c pics) in the Market where long knives are abundant. Not just the butchers but the cheese and bakers also have "weapons".

Pause: My deepest condolences to the families and friends of the souls lost in this latest London MASSACRE.

This was very unnerving to me as I and the family have visited the Burrows Market just about every time we have been in London, probably 4-5 times?? We may even have been in the pub on Stoney St., where the attackers were shot by the LEO's.

The Market, one of several in London, could be compared to a weekend flee-market, country setting, with 3 city blocks of boutique goodies, baked goods, fin, feather, & fur meat, Wine, cheese and other specialty dining delights. The crowds visiting the market every Saturday, are similar to what you see in these pictures.

I think Londoners are to quick to run-hide-wien, as they have been told.....

Watched a segment on FOX this AM, some nummy walking down the street with a beer, he was hailed as a "proper" London hero?,, He was a drunk and was running away like all the rest....

The 2nd in the street pic is, I believe taken with my back to the pub where they nailed the muzzies..

I Am Not A Happy Camper..

Fortunately My daughter and family are visiting family in Italy and other friends are clear of harm,, this time..

PS: The pic of me and my drinking buddy, we swap off acting as designated driver..
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And another thing...


Ms May is running her mouth in the wrong direction. GIVE ME A FREAK'N BREAK..

link: her speech


This is so WRONG. She wants thought police to intercept all non-PC activity on the internet, in the guise of preventing bad guys from what I have no idea..

NO NO NO NO, A Thousands Times NO. It's called the 1st Amendment in America, and shit like this will take it away from you.

The need to catch bad guys is much easier if they are not hidden, and are not using means that the good guys don't have access to. .

Hunt then, Kill then, Don't hide them..
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muslims, islamic terrorism a cancer

This is a cancer and how does the western world react, by allowing more of the cancer inside their borders.

And most think humans are evolving.

These islamic terrorist attacks only embolden the muslims.

Check your loadout, ensure you have that extra mag handy. No room, get rid of the unneeded flashlight....

And when someone yells "allah snackbar" in your presence, that's the code word for "draw".
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