02-18-2018, 12:07
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Black panther is not an animal but a genus and a terrorist group
The "black panther" only exists in hollyweird and American terrorists organizations. (Funny how that works.)
panthera genus many big cats fall under this "genus" and none are "panthers".
black panthers
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The Black Panther Party was an African-American revolutionary leftist organization founded in Oakland, California, by Huey Newton and Bobby Seale in 1966. The Black Panther Party achieved national and international notoriety through its involvement in the Black Power movement and in U.S. politics of the 1960s and 70s. The organization initially claimed to be protecting the African American neighborhoods from police brutality, but the leaders soon claimed to be followed socialist and Maoist communist doctrines. It was active in the United States from 1966 until 1982. The New Black Panther Party was founded in Dallas in 1989 but has direct connection to the original party.VideoVideo: 1968 Black Panther leader Huey Newton. Free Huey rally, February 17th, 1968, Oakland Auditorium, Alameda, California.
Black Panthers, also known as Black Panther Party for Self-Defense is an inactive group formed c. 1966.
https://www.trackingterrorism.org/group/black-panthers
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02-18-2018, 14:18
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Where was all the hype when Black Panther was first introduced in Captain America Civil War?
"Uhhh well now he has his own movie!"
I Am Legend
Blade
Predator 2
Where was all the hype and build up for those movies with black protagonists? Oh yeah they didn't have the name of a leftist terror group as their title. And we actually had a healthy political and racial climate in those days.
Useful idiots...
The sad thing is Black Panther is probably an enjoyable movie, but it's inflated ratings and ties to attracting race obsessed lunies have really turned me off from seeing it.
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02-19-2018, 03:54
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Originally Posted by Mustang Man
Where was all the hype when Black Panther was first introduced in Captain America Civil War?
"Uhhh well now he has his own movie!"
I Am Legend
Blade
Predator 2
Where was all the hype and build up for those movies with black protagonists? Oh yeah they didn't have the name of a leftist terror group as their title. And we actually had a healthy political and racial climate in those days.
Useful idiots...
The sad thing is Black Panther is probably an enjoyable movie, but it's inflated ratings and ties to attracting race obsessed lunies have really turned me off from seeing it.
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I think I read somewhere that Blade was the first Marvel comic based film.
Spawn was another comic based film a year prior to it with a black protagonist.
Both at the leading edge of the endless wave of comic book films.
Neither film was an award winner, but quite enjoyable enough mindless action films compared to most rubbish.
It’s a shame so much is intentionally forgotten to push an agenda, as there’s some great pride in ethnic heritage to be had for the genuine comic boom film nerds.
I’ll probably check out Black Panther with my kids, but I’m not paying for it.
Hopefully Stan Lee has a cameo. He’s not long for this earth.
I’d like to hear his opinion on the crazy around this, he seems like a pretty good guy.
I wonder if he would ever comment about the comic predating the illicit network and the temporary changing of the comic character name due to said illicitl network.
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02-19-2018, 06:25
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Black Panther came out in the comics before the Black Panthers came out on the street.
Tried to change the name of the Panther but the new name wouldn't stick and he went back to his original name.
Been to Africa but never found Wakanda
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02-19-2018, 07:07
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Black Panther goes back to The Fantastic Four in 1966 and predates the terror group. He was also part of the Avengers in the late 60s comics. As in the comics over the last several years, the antagonist is black, also.
My older son has been a fan of the this reboot comic series since it started and we saw the movie over the weekend. It was actually really good and is a top Marvel movie. It was not preachy considering all the press and attention about the nearly all black production.
There was a lot of humor as well as action.
It's really is movie version of a comic.
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02-19-2018, 09:25
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Originally Posted by Flagg
Hopefully Stan Lee has a cameo. He’s not long for this earth.
I’d like to hear his opinion on the crazy around this, he seems like a pretty good guy.
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The interwebz have been buzzing on his cameo - and if things are correct, the most fitting cameo of late - he swoops in to collect up a pile of money earned by the superhero. The folks that like comic book movies will probably love this one too - why wouldn't they?
I couldnt stand jar-jar binks or the brooding little kid version of darth vader - I wasnt extra fond of the sand-gets-everywhere-and-I-hate-it darth vader either. I am a put-off by all of the little SJW digs in the new trilogy...
...but I am a Star Wars fan, so I'll keep going to Star Wars flicks.
As far as Stan Lee and his opinion on the SJW cult following of his new movie - he has been pushing SJW themes in Marvel comics for decades - he is a big money Clinton supporter and once made the statement, " Being president these days is too big a job for someone with just one superpower. Though I do think Obama has a certain Mr. Fantastic quality"
Stan Lee is pretty open about his SJW comic leanings so I would expect that he is getting a big smile all the way to the bank so he can deposit all of the 'chips' he is collecting from Black Panther.
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02-19-2018, 09:52
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Stan Lee is pretty open about his SJW comic leanings so I would expect that he is getting a big smile all the way to the bank so he can deposit all of the 'chips' he is collecting from Black Panther.
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Sums up his cameo perfectly. LOL.
However, on thing that struck me while watching the credits roll by waiting for the small scene at the end, the locations where they filmed ...more specifically where they did not film. A film that gets so much attention for being about an African nation, all the black actors, directors, producers, etc that ends on a note of empowerment and uplifting of people, did not put that message where their money is as no part of the production actually touched Africa.
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02-19-2018, 11:07
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I watched the movie last night. Both my wife and kid wanted to see it on the big screen. I knew about all the hoopla and support Oprah and just about every black entertainer has been glowing about since it’s opening. To me that means nothing as I don’t see color as a prejudice to entertainment.
Without spoilers it was a Marvel Comic movie. There were a few scenes and choice words that could have been left out and said innuendo that tarnished an overall enjoyable and magnificent special effects movie. The 3D was superb and the acting by all really fantastic. The humor in it was just right - except flying the ‘bird’ that made no sense whatsoever for the script but some people laughed.
From a GB standpoint the anti-hero’s character was laughable beyond question. For anyone who’s seen it you know what I mean.
The idea that a magical asteroid could not only create an advanced beyond modern utopia in the heart of Africa that no one knows about hundreds of years predating everything to include slavery and gives select blood lines superhero status is damn near as intriguing as the planet Krypton where Superman came from.
That and how a Cessna 150 flies from Korea to Africa apparently nonstop.
The sister is “Q” from James Bond played by Abby from NCIS.
Oh and, wait after the credits roll. There more movie after to see.
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02-19-2018, 11:15
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When o read that “whites” were “asking permission to see the film so as not to spoil the blackness of ‘their’ experience while ‘many of them’ were showing solidarity by showing up in African garb”
I decided this was one movie I would skip on the big screen.
Stereotypes be damned...I’ll speak with my wallet.
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02-19-2018, 12:41
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Originally Posted by Eagle5US
Well-
When o read that “whites” were “asking permission to see the film so as not to spoil the blackness of ‘their’ experience while ‘many of them’ were showing solidarity by showing up in African garb”
I decided this was one movie I would skip on the big screen.
Stereotypes be damned...I’ll speak with my wallet.
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Me tooooo. The local news showed some people protesting at a theater near campus when some white students were going to attend. Guess they do not believe in equal rights.
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02-19-2018, 13:34
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Me tooooo. The local news showed some people protesting at a theater near campus when some white students were going to attend. Guess they do not believe in equal rights.
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They are hypocrites, to deny people because they are "white" (hummm, I thought my skin color was a pinkish hue) well it just means they are "racists".....I would not waste a dime on that movie, or the majority of movies that come out of Hollyweird..
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02-19-2018, 13:36
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Me tooooo. The local news showed some people protesting at a theater near campus when some white students were going to attend. Guess they do not believe in equal rights.
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That’s too bad because the message of the movie is inclusiveness and the anti-radicalization of black people. If I say more I would need to preface it with spoiler alerts.
So short sighted of those people they must have missed the memo.
I sat next to an middle-aged black lady and think we saw the same movie, laughed at the same time and cringed together at other times.
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02-19-2018, 22:02
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My teen boys went to see this film a few days ago with a group of (racially and culturally diverse) friends. Not one of them liked it. I asked why and they said it was boring. Predictable. They were looking for entertainment, but apparently Marvel has been there, done that, with the previous 18 movies made since 2007. (What is that, nearly 2 movies a year?) And there are 8 more of these suckers in various stages of production.
I'm so out of the loop, when my 16 y/o mentioned wanting to see this film, I asked him why he wanted to see a movie about a black socialist/political group from the 60s.
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02-20-2018, 16:00
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Black Panther goes back to The Fantastic Four in 1966 and predates the terror group.
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Nice to know the American terrorist group got their name from a comic book........ fitting.
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02-21-2018, 06:56
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I watched it last night. I am, admittedly, a huge movie geek, and go probably 2-3 times a month. At the end of the day, it was a good "Marvel-superhero" movie. Nothing more, nothing less. I enjoyed it, it wasn't worth the hype, and sets itself up for cross-overs and sequels....just like every single other marvel superhero movie that's come out in the last 10 years or so.
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