11-01-2010, 07:15
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Great posts. My only advice is a bit of experiance......
Finding myself in Africa, translating French to my ODA because our $150,000 a year translator was mis-translating what needed to happen...
That language stuff is REALLY important. It could mean the differance of clearing customs and getting your team arrested in a foreign country....yet another experiance.
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11-01-2010, 17:40
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IMO, the DLI FSMs are pretty much the best you're going to find Open Source and they even have some lessons for your iPods.
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Originally Posted by Backwoods
Finding myself in Africa, translating French...
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Sir,
That shit they were a speakin' over yonder damn sure weren't no French I'd ever heerd! 
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06-16-2011, 00:39
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Location: Lone Star
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indo tutoring/conversing
Gents, if you've been assigned indo and having a hard time (well, you suck, it's the easiest one ), wanting to learn more, preparing for OPI, looking to get your essay proofread and so on, feel free to PM me. I also got resources ie. Ranger handbook , bible in indo etc.
I'm DLPT 3+/3+ and can converse as well as a native. I've been getting language pay, and trying to volunteer at the language school to earn my pay somewhat.
I'd be honored to aid your language training in any way I can 
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06-19-2011, 13:14
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Join Date: Mar 2011
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Hebrew Language Training
Has Hebrew ever been taught in language training in the Q course?
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06-19-2011, 21:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DKay
Has Hebrew ever been taught in language training in the Q course?
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It's hard enough getting resources to teach useful/relevant languages. We aren't fighting a war with Israel; in fact, they're allies and the educated Israelis I've met all spoke English.
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06-21-2011, 05:50
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RHB and FM7-8
Does anyone happen to have these two in Spanish? Electronic copies? Thanks
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06-21-2011, 12:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike792
Does anyone happen to have these two in Spanish? Electronic copies? Thanks
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PM inbound.
If you have AKO access, SOFLO has various manuals in a plethora of languages.
Anyone interested, PM me if you'd like the direct link.
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06-24-2011, 18:12
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Asset
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Translation of training materials
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Originally Posted by Masochist
PM inbound.
If you have AKO access, SOFLO has various manuals in a plethora of languages.
Anyone interested, PM me if you'd like the direct link.
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Also, I currently work at the language course so if somebody needs a manual or a POI translated over to whatever language, shoot me a PM and I can probably help out.
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06-27-2011, 13:46
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To add to this Thread..Re Arabic.
Gents, I have come across this youtube page for any one studying Arabic.
There is various programs on from various Arabic countries, from politics to music. There is no subtitles so I think you try to pick up words that you know.. I do anyway
http://www.youtube.com/user/4ShbabTV.../l/4vakUvhgZxM
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08-27-2011, 18:23
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http://www.lexilogos.com/english/arabic_dictionary.htm
Arabic dictionary, looks like its a good resource no matter what the dialect
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAXVCAmfrdE
youtube is also a good reference for learning, not limited to music and watching people fail
http://www.spanishdict.com
for spanish i use this ^^, trying to perfect my language skill.
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02-28-2012, 16:42
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All,
Among the many other resources listed in this thread and on this site for language learning, the following may be useful.
http://hs2.lingnet.org/
The link above takes the web surfer to a program from the DLIFLC(Defense Language Institute Foreign Language Center). The program comes in 17 languages and is an amazing asset in starting, refreshing, and sharpening language skills. Perhaps one of the most useful pieces of the units is the military vocabulary that is included in the training. Your average language resource or class will not teach you how to march in French or ask where the tanks are in Russian.
I hope someone finds this as useful as I did.
Have a good'un.
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02-29-2012, 21:03
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CORE Langauge
FYI - Heard today from HRC that whatever langauge is your core language. I.E.: Your left SWC with SERBO/CROAT or FRENCH and now your group has you learning RUSSIAN or DARI. We even if you score 2/2 on your OPI or DLPT. Big Mother Army wants her Toys back. You are not to get paid for your Groups langauge if you have a different langauge you "SHOULD NOT" get paid. If you are getting paid you may have to pay back that money.
So if your Group send you to a GCLP Language Course, get your S1 to change your CORE language to that NEW language. This will "FIX" the problem.
Your Group Language Center and Bn S1 most likely does not know this.
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02-29-2012, 21:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MtnGoat
FYI - Heard today from HRC that whatever langauge is your core language. I.E.: Your left SWC with SERBO/CROAT or FRENCH and now your group has you learning RUSSIAN or DARI. We even if you score 2/2 on your OPI or DLPT. Big Mother Army wants her Toys back. You are not to get paid for your Groups langauge if you have a different langauge you "SHOULD NOT" get paid. If you are getting paid you may have to pay back that money.
So if your Group send you to a GCLP Language Course, get your S1 to change your CORE language to that NEW language. This will "FIX" the problem.
Your Group Language Center and Bn S1 most likely does not know this.
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Sounds like it should be an easy fix, as long as everyone gets made aware of it. I don't think that anyone is trying to screw us, its probably just an unintended consequence.
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02-29-2012, 21:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MtnGoat
FYI - Heard today from HRC that whatever langauge is your core language. I.E.: Your left SWC with SERBO/CROAT or FRENCH and now your group has you learning RUSSIAN or DARI. We even if you score 2/2 on your OPI or DLPT. Big Mother Army wants her Toys back. You are not to get paid for your Groups langauge if you have a different langauge you "SHOULD NOT" get paid. If you are getting paid you may have to pay back that money.
So if your Group send you to a GCLP Language Course, get your S1 to change your CORE language to that NEW language. This will "FIX" the problem.
Your Group Language Center and Bn S1 most likely does not know this.
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MG is absolutely right. Make sure your ORB/ERB reflects the language you are testing in. All of the SFG(A) S1s have FAILED to take care of their Soldiers when it comes to Language (and a lot of the other pays too). There's a new Command Language Policy coming. It looks now like it will be released just before or ICW the upcoming Commander's Conference (03-05 Apr 12). Language is a VERY hot topic right now.
Sidenote - don't waste time learning any language that is not already designated for your SFG(A). You will not be given any resources to maintain it. That will most likely include pay. E.G. - If you go to 19th SFG(A) and want to learn Spanish and French "because they're easy" be prepared for disappointment.
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A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.
~ Marcus Tullius Cicero (42B.C)
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03-06-2012, 11:09
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19th group languages
FWIW- unless the Group Commander was mistaken, he recently briefed us that French is one of 5/19's target languages.
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