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Old 01-21-2020, 14:00   #121
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My favorite new source for unabashedly FAKE news.

The Babylon Bee anyone?

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Ralph Northam: 'A Militia Assembling To Defend Their Rights Against Tyranny Is A Dangerous First In American History'

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"It was not until the Trump administration that Americans started liking guns."

Northam said that we could have a better idea what the founders would have thought about guns, but sadly, "they did not see fit to leave us a document by which we might guard our country."
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Old 01-21-2020, 14:41   #122
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Only Person Arrested at Virginia Gun Rights Rally Was a Mask-Wearing LGBT Activist
The Left caused the rally.
Jan 20, 2020
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Fixed it for them.

Other places armed people congregate:
Gun Shows
Knob Creek
Shot show

Nothing ever happens at these places either. Antifa the "news" and Nazis are also not in attendance.

Wonder why?

Well... I know why Antifa wasn't there... Their mommy told them they had to clean their room first, then they found out their skinny jeans were in the wash.

But seriously... They knew there was going to be heavily armed Americans there, and knew their arsenal of bike locks and sharp sticks was not up to the challenge.
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Old 01-21-2020, 19:46   #123
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My favorite new source for unabashedly FAKE news.

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LMAO. No shit sir. 2x thumbs-up
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Old 01-21-2020, 23:27   #124
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VA Dems will vote today on some 41 gun bills. Seems they are digging in and rushing to pass junk anyway.


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Old 01-22-2020, 06:57   #125
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VA Dems will vote today on some 41 gun bills. Seems they are digging in and rushing to pass junk anyway.


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Yep; their majority was never, ever, going to be swayed by who showed up on a Lobby Day. Their agenda will go forward; they owe Bloomberg a ROI. What 2A supporters there HAVE accomplished (even among some non-committal Richmond denizens running businesses that day who witnessed their polite conduct) is to have, for the world, staked out the higher moral ground, and issued the polite warning "Don't Step on the Snake" or "Ten Bears will move no more" or however one wants to frame it.

And I mention 2A supporters, and specifically the huge membership of VCDL separately from the NRA. Here's just the latest why I make that distinction:

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“Anti-gun billionaires who invested millions in the 2019 Virginia elections expect a return on that investment,” said NRA official D. J. Spiker. “The NRA is fully prepared to work to defeat Governor Northam’s gun grab – but also work to find compromise.
(Translation: "Just don't close down our range & museum.") Source.
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Old 01-22-2020, 07:25   #126
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NOVA is not Virginia... much like the NCR counties around the swamp do not represent Maryland....

So it goes.


Thank God and the Founders for the electoral college.
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Old 01-22-2020, 09:40   #127
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The Dems only hope for the rally was that something bad would happen so that could use it to help rush their bills through. They are simply agenda driven and won't stop until they can forward it. They are driven and focused on one thing -- taking people's ability to protect themselves from their government.
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Old 01-22-2020, 10:26   #128
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They are driven and focused on one thing -- taking people's ability to protect themselves from their government.
And throughout history, there is only one reason a ruling class wants to do that. It is because they want to do something to you that you would otherwise shoot them for.

@Ret10Echo: Concur on the Electoral College thing. And Northam is trying to "fix" that for Virginians with the legislation in the left hand behind his back. Internally as to how they elect Governor (NoVA will henceforth do that in foreverland). And how Virginians' electors are allocated nationally in a General election.

"Thus to Tyrants"
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Old 01-22-2020, 11:06   #129
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Yep; their majority was never, ever, going to be swayed by who showed up on a Lobby Day. Their agenda will go forward; they owe Bloomberg a ROI. What 2A supporters there HAVE accomplished (even among some non-committal Richmond denizens running businesses that day who witnessed their polite conduct) is to have, for the world, staked out the higher moral ground, and issued the polite warning "Don't Step on the Snake" or "Ten Bears will move no more" or however one wants to frame it.

And I mention 2A supporters, and specifically the huge membership of VCDL separately from the NRA. Here's just the latest why I make that distinction:

(Translation: "Just don't close down our range & museum.") Source.
Is anyone surprised that a Negotiating Rights Away official used the word compromise?

Screw the NRA and the Virginia communists.
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Old 01-22-2020, 11:59   #130
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The ghosts of Robert E. Lee and George Thomas would shake hands and fight together against this chicanery together if they got wind on what was going on in their beloved Commonwealth.
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Old 01-23-2020, 16:14   #131
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The ghosts of Robert E. Lee and George Thomas would shake hands and fight together against this chicanery together if they got wind on what was going on in their beloved Commonwealth.
Many outside the arena under the impression that the Lobby Day rally was THE only event of its nature ("ho hum, now they're going home"), as well as those who support them, have posited "Well, what now, Virginians?"

Virginia 1-13 has drafted a resolution to be worked locally, in the counties, by county residents regarding the unorganized militia, as specifically envisioned in the VA Constitution. As means of intro from their web page:
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The citizens of Virginia stand in the face of an onslaught against their civil rights. We the people must be united against this tyranny and look for protection to the statutes and principles our dear state is founded upon. Virginia Constitution, Article 1, Section 13, makes clear the provision we have against this kind of attack.

In order to further unite our actions as the people, Virginia One Thirteen has drafted a resolution that seeks to follow the historical, civil provision for uniting our efforts in the formation of county militias for the defense of liberty for our people.

WHY THIS RESOLUTION?
  • Service in the unorganized militia is the duty of all citizens of the Commonwealth of Virginia per the Virginia Constitution and Code.
  • We are in the middle of an unprecedented attack on our natural right to own firearms to defend ourselves and our communities.
  • If disarmed we will be unable to fulfil our constitutional obligations as a member of the unorganized militia.
  • By having lawful civil authorities (local Board of Supervisors and Town/City Council) officially recognize the constitutional validity of the unorganized militia and regulate it at a local level, we can establish the lawful framework by which we can defend our individual rights of firearms ownership as members of the unorganized militia.
  • Such civil oversight is imperative to asserting these rights legitimately within the confines of the VA and US Constitutions and provides the legal foundation to defend such rights through the judicial process.
  • In addition to the legal and judicial protections established by this resolution, these measures provide an opportunity for citizens to come together in an organized manner and establish a network by which they can support each other and their communities in times of need.
  • Please share this information with your local elected officials and urge them to vote to officially recognize the legitimacy of the unorganized militia in their respective community.
The resolution may be read here, as well as downloaded in PDF or MS-Word formats. ('bout 4 pages)
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Old 01-24-2020, 06:17   #132
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Oh, boy! Don't talk about the Emperor's clothes

"...visual or electronic message"

Aw, shucks. They want to make a crime of distributing some really good memes that are out there.
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Old 01-24-2020, 09:33   #133
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"...visual or electronic message"

Aw, shucks. They want to make a crime of distributing some really good memes that are out there.
They're following the script - compromise the 2nd amendment, then start dismantling the 1st....

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Old 01-24-2020, 11:24   #134
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This could go here, the 2A thread, or any of the ongoing discussions about leftist policies.

Leftist policies are endangering people at the same time that the leftists want to disarm law abiding citizens. An interesting article about recent Seattle shootings at link with edited excerpt below.

https://mynorthwest.com/1682456/dori...ttle-shooting/

Dori: Durkan’s failures, political correctness caused downtown Seattle shooting
BY DORI MONSON
JANUARY 23, 2020 AT 3:11 PM
KIRO radio

Political correctness and liberalism are literally killing people. This downtown Seattle shooting is an extension of all of that.

The two suspects in this downtown shooting have been arrested 44 times with 20 convictions and 21 times with 15 convictions. Marquise Tolbert, the one with 20 convictions, had three felonies last year alone. You tell me how someone with three felonies in 2019 is walking around free and able to engage in a shootout that kills a woman and injures a bunch of other people, including a 9-year-old kid. Both Tolbert and William Tolliver, the other suspect, are just 24 years old. They both have previously been arrested and charged with drive-by shootings and unlawful possession of a firearm in 2018. So the courts knew full well that these were gun-toting gang members. Why did our justice system let them walk free? Why do we place criminals above law-abiding citizens?

When you legalize drugs as we effectively have done by not prosecuting personal possession of drugs, then drug dealers of course will provide those drugs. And drug dealers tend to be backed by gangs. There is a known connection between the most violent gangs around here and the slinging of drugs, because they get in turf wars.

Jenny Durkan is an ineffective mayor. Look at what has happened with the issues people are most worried about — traffic, homelessness, and crime. The media is complicit with this. Just a few days ago, a column in the Seattle Times reported that crime is down. People on the streets know that crime isn’t down. They know that their homes are getting broken into and their car windows are getting smashed. Yet some in the media will say crime is down in Seattle. Yes, and how many shootings have we had since Tuesday? Police were near last night’s shooting because they were a few blocks away at a police-involved shooting in the middle of the afternoon. And so with the help of their compliant media, politicians are able to push out false stories that crime is down and everything is great.

Look at it like a math problem. The effective legalization of drugs + prosecutors and judges who let people walk free + politicians with no clue what they are doing = an inevitable surge in crime.

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Complete article at link above.
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Old 01-24-2020, 11:39   #135
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Seattle!?!? But... but..... mah Starbucks!
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