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Old 12-07-2014, 12:07   #16
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I'm not even 100 percent certain I ever even understood the reason for the gunfight in Somalia.
...Mohamed Farrah Hassan Aidid wasn't captured during the Operation but then again he wasn't the target during the Battle of Mogadishu, the target was two of his henchmen.
Both of the targets were captured early in the engagement unless my history is way off.

Two US helicopters were shot down, which is bad.
19 Americans were killed which is bad.
A few hundred enemy were killed which is better.

An American was captured and later recovered, which is good.
22 enemy were captured which is better.

70-80 Americans were wounded, which is bad.
Hundreds of enemy were wounded and left with SHITTY care. Lots probably died of wounds later.

Two Americans were awarded the Medal of Honor posthumously.


Hardly a shining example of surgical precision, but nothing near what I'd call a disaster.

We lost a helicopter in the Son Tay raid and folks call that a success.
The Navy SEAL that killed Bin Laden had to work through his support force losing a helicopter and yet HE still emerged triumphant.

Loss of a couple helicopters is bad, but I wouldn't call the overall mission a "disaster". I certainly wouldn't place it in a list of "top-five" disasters.

...just my two cents
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Old 12-07-2014, 22:18   #17
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Once a decision for military action has been made, half measures and confused objectives exact a severe price in the form of a protracted conflict which can cause needless waste of human lives and material resources, a divided nation at home, and defeat. Therefore one of the essential elements of our national military strategy is the ability to rapidly assemble the forces needed to win—the concept of applying decisive force to overwhelm our adversaries and thereby terminate conflicts swiftly with minimum loss of life.
http://warontherocks.com/2014/02/a-s...ll-doctrine/#_
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Old 12-08-2014, 04:05   #18
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BACK TO NIGHT RAIDS: COUNTERINSURGENCY OR COUNTERBUREAUCRACY?

Just one example of why the Powell Doctrine should always be our guiding principle.

http://warontherocks.com/2014/12/bac...erbureaucracy/
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Old 12-08-2014, 07:08   #19
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A few of my friends below Maryland would argue Gettysburg as a huge disaster. Recently, Operation Anaconda passed along a few lessons as well.
I don't think that was a disaster but that mission decidedly wasn't smooth nor were the cleanup missions.
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