12-16-2014, 17:51
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Remington 700/Model Seven trigger recall
Just a heads up to those who may have a 700 or 7 with the X-Mark Pro trigger. I didn't see it posted yet:
http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/?p=7...enriflesrecall
They'll fix it free, but it states "may have extra bonding agent". What part of a trigger, any trigger, uses a "bonding agent"? Do they mean loctite?
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12-16-2014, 18:25
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My understanding is that the class action lawyers got a $12 million payout. A small portion was distributed to some people who claimed ADs related to the trigger, and all I saw were violating one or more of the safe gun handling rules.
Consumers get a free replacement trigger, which will pretty much be guaranteed to be lawyer heavy and incapable of easy adjustment to a decent pull.
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12-16-2014, 18:58
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Has it devolved to that point? A few people failed to realize what a "light" pull is? Hell, I didn't think my PSS had that light of a pull to begin with. Being a firearm maintenance guy, during my initial and periodic inspection(s) of my 700 with the XMP, I didn't feel or notice anything wrong. The multitude of dead deer, and lack of dead "me" kind of re-enforced my satisfaction with the NIB product.
A sad state of affairs in the legal realm of firearms
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12-16-2014, 22:29
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That's why four of my five center-fire bolt actions are Winchesters. No problems, easily adjusted trigger, and the surety of a Mauser type safety. (And the lonely Remington has a Jewell trigger.)
P.S. - Yes, "bonding agent" is a version of Loctite. It's to keep consumers from "adjusting" the lawyer proof trigger pull.
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12-17-2014, 11:54
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Never had a problem with Rem triggers. Then again, some people should keep their hands out of things the run on electricity too.
I did know someone who goobered one up so bad it wouldn't cock-on-open & it cost him a nice deer. Tells me he never noticed the position of the striker, or that the safety wouldn't engage. When he's up at the property I always put two major terrain features between us.
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12-17-2014, 13:48
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I replaced mine with a Timney. Problem solved.
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12-17-2014, 21:45
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I put Timney's on mine, also.
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12-18-2014, 01:49
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I have a .375 H&H Remington 700 from their custom shop and couldn't be more happy with the trigger supplied. It is quite an old gun, so the new problem did not apply.
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03-28-2016, 15:21
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So my Remington 700 fired a couple of days ago when I switched the safety off. My finger was not on the trigger. The weapon fortunately was pointed in a safe direction.
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03-28-2016, 16:33
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Quote:
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So my Remington 700 fired a couple of days ago when I switched the safety off. My finger was not on the trigger. The weapon fortunately was pointed in a safe direction.
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Remington issued a recall, IIRC.
After a class action suit.
Was it stock, or had it had a trigger job?
TR
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03-28-2016, 16:41
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
Remington issued a recall, IIRC.
After a class action suit.
Was it stock, or had it had a trigger job?
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Stock. I just ordered a Timney with 2.5 lb. trigger. I don't want to deal with shipping to Remington etc then having them put one of their triggers on it.
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03-28-2016, 16:43
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By the way, TR, the SWAT team guys we were hunting with kept complimenting all of the stuff you told me to buy (scope, MSTN custom AR, etc.).
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03-28-2016, 16:50
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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer
Stock. I just ordered a Timney with 2.5 lb. trigger. I don't want to deal with shipping to Remington etc then having them put one of their triggers on it.
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I am pretty sure that the quality of trigger you got back would be worse than the one you had. Minus the self-discharges.
The Timney will be fine, you can probably install it yourself, but I would have someone who builds rifles for a living install it.
Just my .02.
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By the way, TR, the SWAT team guys we were hunting with kept complimenting all of the stuff you told me to buy (scope, MSTN custom AR, etc.).
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Glad to hear that it is working for you.
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