Go Back   Professional Soldiers ® > Special Forces Weapons > Weapons Discussion Area

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-26-2007, 17:00   #1
NousDefionsDoc
Quiet Professional
 
NousDefionsDoc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: LA
Posts: 1,653
M4 25M Zero Target For Iron Sights

Anybody got one in pdf or something similar?
__________________
Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.

Still want to quit?
NousDefionsDoc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2007, 17:59   #2
Team Sergeant
Quiet Professional
 
Team Sergeant's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 20,929
http://www.thetacticalsolution.com/d...ero_target.pdf

__________________
"The Spartans do not ask how many are the enemy, but where they are."
Team Sergeant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2007, 20:09   #3
NousDefionsDoc
Quiet Professional
 
NousDefionsDoc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: LA
Posts: 1,653
Many thanks.
__________________
Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.

Still want to quit?
NousDefionsDoc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2007, 11:45   #4
jatx
Area Commander
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,355
Gentlemen, do you know of a technique for using this target to zero or confirm zero for an M4 using a CCO or Eotech?

Many thanks.
__________________
"Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave whither Thou goest." - Ecclesiastes 9:10

"If simple folk are free from care and fear, simple they will be, and we must be secret to keep them so." - JRRT
jatx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2007, 14:10   #5
82ndtrooper
BANNED USER
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,189
Zero

Quote:
Originally Posted by jatx
Gentlemen, do you know of a technique for using this target to zero or confirm zero for an M4 using a CCO or Eotech?

Many thanks.
Same question I had. I use the Aimpont Compm2 2MOA. It's parallax free so it's never been a true zero, but under 25 meters I'm only trying to hit what I can see when plinking.

Thanks for the link Team Sergeant. I need this for my new builds.
82ndtrooper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2007, 15:24   #6
Team Sergeant
Quiet Professional
 
Team Sergeant's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 20,929
Quote:
Originally Posted by jatx
Gentlemen, do you know of a technique for using this target to zero or confirm zero for an M4 using a CCO or Eotech?

Many thanks.
EOTEC, IMO is for work 200 to zero meters. A weapons zero depends on your "working" preference.

Tell me what's the bullet drop from zero to 100 meters?

100 to 200?
200 to 300?

It also depends on what model weapon and what you're feeding it.
__________________
"The Spartans do not ask how many are the enemy, but where they are."
Team Sergeant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2007, 16:33   #7
jatx
Area Commander
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,355
Quote:
Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
EOTEC, IMO is for work 200 to zero meters. A weapons zero depends on your "working" preference.

Tell me what's the bullet drop from zero to 100 meters?

100 to 200?
200 to 300?

It also depends on what model weapon and what you're feeding it.
I am using M855 or its moral equivalent, which clocks about 2860 fps out of a 14.5" barrel. Using the JBM online calculator and a 300 yard zero, I estimate bullet drop as:

0-100 4.3 inches
100-200 4.3 + 1.7 inches = 6.0 inches
200-300 0 inches

A 200 yard zero would yield the following:

0-100 1.3 inches
100-200 0 inches

Others may get different results, but I am compensating for the POF Predator rail placing my reticle about 3 inches above bore axis.

While I understand your point about the Eotech, I've had no problem getting good hits with mine out past 300. The way I look at it, the center dot (1.5 MOA) is smaller in diameter than my FSP, so it obstructs less of the target at 300 yards than the iron sights on which I originally qualified.

If I were to use this target for a 300 yard zero and the rifle mentioned above, my inclination would be to hold a dot low from center mass. Since the Eotech's center dot is roughly 4.5 inches in diameter at 300 yards, that means my POI would be within 1 MOA of my POA at all distances <300 yards.

Am I thinking about this right?
__________________
"Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave whither Thou goest." - Ecclesiastes 9:10

"If simple folk are free from care and fear, simple they will be, and we must be secret to keep them so." - JRRT
jatx is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:40.



Copyright 2004-2022 by Professional Soldiers ®
Site Designed, Maintained, & Hosted by Hilliker Technologies