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Old 01-18-2020, 15:56   #91
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FAA is involved - no fly zone

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Old 01-18-2020, 18:05   #92
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That's so no one hits their drones...
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Old 01-18-2020, 18:07   #93
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Seems a bit extreme for a relatively small rally, am I wrong?
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Old 01-18-2020, 18:19   #94
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Seems a bit extreme for a relatively small rally, am I wrong?
Nothing about their response has been not extreme...

State of Emergency
Laws disarming people
Putting up corrals to hold protesters in large herds
metal detectors on public streets and property...
No fly zones
Drones doing surveillance runs of the area
The list grows.
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Old 01-18-2020, 18:26   #95
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That's so no one hits their drones...
In addition it might also limit the media ability to have eyes on the activities on the ground.
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Old 01-18-2020, 21:56   #96
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Without that modification it's unlikely the thing would've been ratified when it was.
Exactly. Yet, the Constitution was ratified without the Bill of Rights. Interesting that the fight today is against certain Rights of the People and not the reinstitution of the States control of the Senate.
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Old 01-18-2020, 23:05   #97
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George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and quite a few other sons of ole' Virginny are probably spinning in their graves faster than your garden variety pulsar...

...and somehow conservatives are the ones that need a moral rebuke.


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And just like that the Dems put up a wall...….


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Old 01-19-2020, 14:27   #99
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Crazy world...

...the right of the people to peaceably assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances...under constant surveillance, under state of emergency, disarmed, infiltrated, funneled into holding pens behind chain link fences...to merely maintain their own inalienable rights...shall not be infringed.

Or...as “Coonman” says...”WHATEVER!”
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Old 01-20-2020, 01:03   #100
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In addition it might also limit the media ability to have eyes on the activities on the ground.
Something fishy here.
Leftist rent-a-mobs up to no good.

Maybe they're hoping some wing nut will do something stupid.
Fits the media narrative of those bitter gun & bible clinging racist Trump supporters.

When does the impeachment trial start?
Did pelosi delay it in order to match timing with an engineerined riot and/or wing nut idiocy?
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Old 01-20-2020, 01:20   #101
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Did pelosi delay it in order to match timing with an engineerined riot and/or wing nut idiocy?
Play into violence, of any kind, they win PR that day and every day thereafter. Why present that opportunity, that was my thinking on attending the rally.
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Something fishy here.
Leftist rent-a-mobs up to no good.

Maybe they're hoping some wing nut will do something stupid.
Fits the media narrative of those bitter gun & bible clinging racist Trump supporters.

When does the impeachment trial start?
Did pelosi delay it in order to match timing with an engineerined riot and/or wing nut idiocy?
I've found the Lobby Day aspect kind of fishy from the beginning, whatever the organizers intentions the rally is ripe for exploitation. It's especially fishy considering that the vast majority of counties and Sheriff's in Virginia are refusing to enforce the Northam Regimes edict on firearms. Why march on Richmond, rather than stand their ground on friendly home turf and let Northam come to them.

Civil War II : The coming breakup of America is an interesting read with the on going events in Virginia.
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I've found the Lobby Day aspect kind of fishy from the beginning, whatever the organizers intentions the rally is ripe for exploitation.
The Lobby Day isn't just about VCDL; it's a traditional happening in VA and 2A supporters are far from the only ones lobbying their politi-critters. Flipping the coin, what would be the message sent if, in the face of chain link fencing, VCDL chose this year to surrender and not attend?

Very balanced coverage including interviews, and (coming later) coverage of the speeches by WRVA AM radio at 1140kHz. I listened early this AM via the wire and HF but now that the sun has come up the rest of us kulaks can listen here:

https://www.radio.com/newsradiowrva/listen
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Old 01-20-2020, 09:56   #104
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To Pete's mention of the FAA NOTAM

On the temp airspace restriction (except for .PTB), this from an on-site source:

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UPDATE 1023E 20JAN2020:

SITUATION STILL AOK TO ALL INDICATIONS
Can’t get anywhere near Killbox entry; too many patriots in the way :-).
Crowd remains cool and cooperative with each other.
Impossible to get even a SWAG count of attendees, but they continue to come in by the dozens in front of me as I type.
Local radio promises to broadcast live from 1100-1200; go to https://www.radio.com/newsradiowrva/listen
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Cops all cool, even while talking with strangers with slung rifles.
Air assets include at least two helicopters and a orbiting fixed wing; two quadcopter drones < 1000AGL
Edit to add: One of the prevalent signs says "More Patriots Than You Have Handcuffs"
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Old 01-20-2020, 11:55   #105
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The Lobby Day isn't just about VCDL; it's a traditional happening in VA and 2A supporters are far from the only ones lobbying their politi-critters. Flipping the coin, what would be the message sent if, in the face of chain link fencing, VCDL chose this year to surrender and not attend?

Very balanced coverage including interviews, and (coming later) coverage of the speeches by WRVA AM radio at 1140kHz. I listened early this AM via the wire and HF but now that the sun has come up the rest of us kulaks can listen here:

https://www.radio.com/newsradiowrva/listen
Correct, and I understand that. But once Northam, the FBI and the media hyped up the situation, it became a bit of dicey call for the VCDL. As long as cool heads prevail the event won't be much of a story for the MSM and a win for the VCDL.
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