Tonight's debate.

Dusty · 12-15-2015, 16:18

Hopefully, Trump won't fall for the Cruz/Trump battle bait.
The aftermath of this debate could well cement the idea in the pillowbiters' brains that we're serious about getting the weak sisters out of DC.

Divemaster · 12-15-2015, 16:33

It will be interesting to see how Christie does now that he is back from the kiddie table.

Divemaster · 12-15-2015, 16:44

CNN commentator Ana Navarro just now, talking about Jeb but in a sad general commentary on U.S. politics: "He just needs to have one good line to create one good moment to create some stylistic authority..."

Folks, that is the Maxim Effect in a nutshell. For people who derive their self-esteem by having more Facebook friends than someone else and who have "trending" as their life goal, it all comes down to sound bites.

Dusty · 12-15-2015, 16:59

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CNN commentator Ana Navarro just now, talking about Jeb but in a sad general commentary on U.S. politics: "He just needs to have one good line to create one good moment to create some stylistic authority..."

Folks, that is the Maxim Effect in a nutshell. For people who derive their self-esteem by having more Facebook friends than someone else and who have "trending" as their life goal, it all comes down to sound bites.

Concur with that 100 percent.
Recently, some lib head said ISIS wanted Trump to win.

They're skeered, boys.

Donald's numbers went even huger after his "no muslims allowed" blurb.

Paslode · 12-15-2015, 22:23

Jebino wore me out with his reiteration of the same talking points over and over again...and it was ike listening to Bush I and Bush II. Fiorina could have been doing a commercial for HP. Kaisich might consider becoming a TV Evangelist. Ben Carson seemed a bit medicated.

Cruz and Rubio were a bit too scripted for my liking. Paul was bland. Trump did well with his off the cuff style, but bombed on the nuke questions.

Who were the best debaters....Cruz and Rubio.

Mills · 12-15-2015, 23:14

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Originally Posted by Paslode

Jebino wore me out with his reiteration of the same talking points over and over again...and it was ike listening to Bush I and Bush II. Fiorina could have been doing a commercial for HP. Kaisich might consider becoming a TV Evangelist. Ben Carson seemed a bit medicated.

Cruz and Rubio were a bit too scripted for my liking. Paul was bland. Trump did well with his off the cuff style, but bombed on the nuke questions.

Who were the best debaters....Cruz and Rubio.

Sounds like a Miami law firm...........

If your injured in a on the job, call rubio / cruz.

Wolf put Cruz in the corner for a bit, but other than that, he had a pretty good night.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKXGA-AU50w

cbtengr · 12-16-2015, 06:14

Christie will not be getting a Christmas card from the Obamas, seems that Barry does not like being referred to as a "Feckless Weakling." And they used to be so close.

Streck-Fu · 12-16-2015, 06:42

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Christie will not be getting a Christmas card from the Obamas, seems that Barry does not like being referred to as a "Feckless Weakling." And they used to be so close.

That was back when Obama had longevity in the White House. Now Christie wants that job, so Obama's usefulness is over. Typical politics.

(1VB)compforce · 12-16-2015, 06:51

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Originally Posted by Paslode

Jebino wore me out with his reiteration of the same talking points over and over again...and it was ike listening to Bush I and Bush II. Fiorina could have been doing a commercial for HP. Kaisich might consider becoming a TV Evangelist. Ben Carson seemed a bit medicated.

Cruz and Rubio were a bit too scripted for my liking. Paul was bland. Trump did well with his off the cuff style, but bombed on the nuke questions.

Who were the best debaters....Cruz and Rubio.

Kasich' Karate Hands were killing me. I had trouble focusing on what he was saying because they were so distractingly odd. His closing statement was horrible, not a single substantive statement in the whole thing.

I think a deal has been made behind closed doors. Last night I saw Trump and Cruz publicly mending fences and supporting each others' answers. Even when they didn't directly support each other, their answers looked and sounded like they came from the same person. Trump also bombed when he took CNN to task about their questions rather than responding to the one posed. Pure misdirection and it didn't fool anyone.

The great line of the night to me was Cruz saying "I'll build a wall and get Mr. Trump to pay for it".

Bridgegate out of nowhere made Paul look weak. Pure attack and was completely out of context.

Fiorina spent more time blaming Hillary than she did talking about issues.

Rubio came across looking sophomoric. I couldn't help but think of him as the know-it-all college graduate with no experience that wants to tell everyone how it should be done.

Carson is smart, but his presentation makes him appear weak.

Christie's hard line on everything has some value, but he appears unable to compromise on anything, which will make him unappealing to the masses.

Overall I think Trump stays where he is or loses a point or two, Cruz moves up, Carson and Rubio lose some ground and the others will stay the same because everyone has already left them except their hard core supporters.

Dusty · 12-16-2015, 07:19

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Kasich' Karate Hands were killing me. I had trouble focusing on what he was saying because they were so distractingly odd. His closing statement was horrible, not a single substantive statement in the whole thing.

I think a deal has been made behind closed doors. Last night I saw Trump and Cruz publicly mending fences and supporting each others' answers. Even when they didn't directly support each other, their answers looked and sounded like they came from the same person. Trump also bombed when he took CNN to task about their questions rather than responding to the one posed. Pure misdirection and it didn't fool anyone.

The great line of the night to me was Cruz saying "I'll build a wall and get Mr. Trump to pay for it".

Bridgegate out of nowhere made Paul look weak. Pure attack and was completely out of context.

Fiorina spent more time blaming Hillary than she did talking about issues.

Rubio came across looking sophomoric. I couldn't help but think of him as the know-it-all college graduate with no experience that wants to tell everyone how it should be done.

Carson is smart, but his presentation makes him appear weak.

Christie's hard line on everything has some value, but he appears unable to compromise on anything, which will make him unappealing to the masses.

Overall I think Trump stays where he is or loses a point or two, Cruz moves up, Carson and Rubio lose some ground and the others will stay the same because everyone has already left them except their hard core supporters.

Pretty good analysis.
Trump and Cruz avoided the trap.
When the public figures out Trump was talking about shutting down the internet on a geographical basis to thwart tangos, the leftist won't have much of a leg to stand on.
I think Trump's numbers will bounce even further, and Cruz will inflate his a tad.
Lookin' like a Trump/Cruz ticket...

Paslode · 12-16-2015, 07:19

The theoretical questions on foreign policy and the nuclear triad were worthless imo, because none the people on stage are going to know what they will do until they are sitting in the throne of power.....on the other hand we already know that HRC's foreign policy equates to BENGHAZI.

Dusty · 12-16-2015, 07:54

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The theoretical questions on foreign policy and the nuclear triad were worthless imo, because none the people on stage are going to know what they will do until they are sitting in the throne of power.....on the other hand we already know that HRC's foreign policy equates to BENGHAZI.

I'm thinking more people realize the truth of that than is evident; shame is that the libs who know don't care.

MtnGoat · 12-16-2015, 08:13

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Lookin' like a Trump/Cruz ticket...

I didn't watch the debates due the time they come on where I'm at and my "Office" doesn't have a TV in it.

But I like this ticket.

Dusty · 12-16-2015, 08:20

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I didn't watch the debates due the time they come on where I'm at and my "Office" doesn't have a TV in it.

But I like this ticket.

A year's a long time, but I'd think if either Trump or Cruz were gonna be successfully undermined out of the race by the slimeballs, it probably would have already happened.
Carson's in a mudhole, and Bush never got his feet under him.
I'm no longer apprehensive about Bush as a successful dark horse.
Rubio's still hangin'.

The Country's tired of the duplicity and non-action of the slackjaws.

Paslode · 12-16-2015, 08:26

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I'm thinking more people realize the truth of that than is evident; shame is that the libs who know don't care.

My feeling has been for sometime (several decades) that too many in all walks of life believe that every 4 years they will choose one person and that person will fix everything. Obama is by far the extreme example of this thus far.

The egg head/smart people put an inordinate amount of emphasis on formalities like debate and oratory skills, and following a script.....again Obama wooed the 'educated' masses.

Works call...I gotta get some stuff done so I will finish up later