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Old 05-14-2004, 17:05   #1
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MACV-SOG Roll Call

I am a Viet Nam history buff, and it has been a real pleasure being able to bounce periodic questions off of BMT, Ambush Master and QRQ 30. I am curious who served in MACV-SOG, where they served, what teams or other units they were in, and -- of course -- any stories they are willing to tell!

So this is the SOG Roll Call thread. Anything any of you are willing to post would be great. And whether you post or not, thank you for your extraordinary service to our country. I and many others are deeply grateful.
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RL, I'll open it.

I ran on RT New York out of CCC in Kontum. I was there 1970/71 timeframe while John Plaster was flying Covey and Bob Howard was the Recon Company CO. My 60mm story and the Brightlight AAR in the Briefback Forum were from that period. The Brightlight AAR happened while I was a student at the MACVSOG Recon Teamleaders School therefore called One Zero School. That school was mandatory before you would be allowed to run Cross-Border Operations. They wanted all of the Americans on the team to be able to take the team over if need be. After you read Plaster's Books, you can see why.

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Old 05-20-2004, 11:16   #3
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Thanks, Martin. Looks like others don't want to play. Oh, well.

If it helps, I'm not going to be PMing those who respond every five minutes with annoying, stupid questions.
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Old 05-20-2004, 12:06   #4
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RL, I'll open it.

I ran on RT New York out of CCC in Kontum. I was there 1970/71 timeframe while John Plaster was flying Covey and Bob Howard was the Recon Company CO. My 60mm story and the Brightlight AAR in the Briefback Forum were from that period. The Brightlight AAR happened while I was a student at the MACVSOG Recon Teamleaders School therefore called One Zero School. That school was mandatory before you would be allowed to run Cross-Border Operations. They wanted all of the Americans on the team to be able to take the team over if need be. After you read Plaster's Books, you can see why.

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MACV-SOG Roll Call

MLS Quan Loi Oct '69-Dec '69

MLS North Dec '69- Jul '70

CCS S-3 Op Sgt. Jul '70- Sep '70


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FOB-2 1-0 ST Deleware.
FOB-3 1-0 ST Bear
FOB-2 1-0Special Projects Team Cutlass

Time Frame 1968. Didn't have no foogin 1-0 school. Learned OJT. Short OJT since my 1-0 was KIA in the first 24 hours.

As I have said on other boards, SF Soldiers are flexible and adaptable.

The shower/wash room at Kontum was named after my 1-0 -- Martin's Manor.

The latrine was named after the first MOH recipient -- Sisler's Shitters.
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Old 05-22-2004, 16:20   #7
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Lrt me clarify the above. I have nothing against 1-0 school. It is just a fact that it didn't exist in 1968. If it did, I may have never had the opportunity to run recon since I was assigned as an 05B/05C.

I believe the purpose was standardization of commo, air ops, various methods of insertion and extraction etc. The first time I saw a McGuire rig (I was also pre-STABO) was for an emercency extraction. OTOH a recon man has to be able to think on the run. There were no two missions the same for me.

Unfortunately "standardization" was also a stumbling block. The bad guys new the approximate time between a VR and insertion for wxample.

I hope I haven't screwed up the roll call!!
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Old 05-22-2004, 17:52   #8
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Its an honor gentlemen, and I mean that with all my heart.
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Old 06-01-2004, 13:09   #9
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It's a great honor, and I too mean that with all my heart. We are very fortunate to have men such as yourselves here.
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Its an honor gentlemen, and I mean that with all my heart.
I second that.
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Its an honor gentlemen, and I mean that with all my heart.
Not nearly as much as still being here !!!! Having this Forum to share all of our thoughts, THIS REALLY MAKES IT WORTH IT !!!!

From the Mugs that I drink my coffee, everyday: "YOU HAVE NEVER LIVED UNTIL YOU HAVE ALMOST DIED. FOR THOSE WHO HAVE FOUGHT FOR IT, LIFE (AND FREEDOM) HAS A SPECIAL FLAVOR THE PROTECTED WILL NEVER KNOW."

It's an Honor to be a part of this endeavor !!

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Old 06-21-2004, 05:20   #12
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The attached lists almost all of the RT's from CCN circa 71.
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Old 06-04-2007, 16:20   #13
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Bullseye Banner MLT-2

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The attached lists almost all of the RT's from CCN circa 71.
This is a 6 X 6-foot canvas tarp with a bulls eye painted in the center and “Bullseye” (flight call sign for CCN) written above it. This hung in the flight crews ready room of the MLT-2 compound at Quang Tri.

In October of 1971 there was a farewell gathering for CWO Gary Yates, B/158 AHB/101st ABD. The Bullseye Flight Insignia was signed by many of the recon team leaders and members, and then given to CW2 Yates along with a CCN plaque thanking him for his service to SF. Some team members wrote comments which had special meaning based on a particular mission or just reflecting the attitude of the RTs.

RT Team: Names: Statements:
Habu
L. D. McGlathern “The Lord giveth and Habu’s CAR-15’s taketh away”
Robert E. Cook
Richard D. Brackhausen

Habu
Nicholas Von Brakhousen “Baron 1st Class”

Intruder
SSG Risto Cherman
Sgt. Fraile

Cobra
William J. Kiempe “To Stump”
Ronald Davidson
Guy Wagy “ To the Chopper Jockey who busted my cherry”
Bac-si Malone

Rattler
Sgt. Bieber

Louisiana
John Levister
Ray Frovarp
Ed Weatford

Python
Sgt. Jim Baldwin

Idaho
Castillo
Pully

New Jersey
Sgt Don F. Murphy
Sgt. John H. Waters
Sgt. Tom B. Arbett

Kansas
George Cohrell
Mark Mcpherson

Virginia
Colin L. Chaffee

Sidewinder
Sgt. Sparling
Sgt. Laurent

Michigan
Bob Bolyon
Jean Shanky

Connecticut
J. Clegg

Mamba
Roger Pope
Mark Pollock

ASP
Sgt. Jim J. Thompson
Bill Quean

Adder
William S. Casa
Ronald C. Fletcher

Bushmaster
Eldon A. Bargewell
Jean Paul Castagna
Glenn A. Baggeth

Halo TM#3
Jim “Tub” Bath (JD)

Covey ML-2
Dave “Big Indian” Cheney

Georgia
(Jimmie) Johnson

Krait
Hendrick “Mud Hole” Waters

North Carolina
Ray Robinson

Moccasin
Johnny W. Elia
Steve Grish

Mississippi
Sgt. Folbre
Sgt. Page

Oklahoma
“Fast Eddie” Anderson
“No Spleen” Ross
Jim Kiehne “Doc”

C. Kennedy “Covey Dude”

“Hostile Man”

Connecticut Class & Deboner from 3 tight ass’s
Quang Tri BDA
SSG A. B. Smith
Sgt. “Twitch” Twidell
Sgt. “Snow Mobile” Bradow

Crusader
Injun Adams
Reese (Pee Wee)
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Old 06-04-2007, 17:05   #14
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Recondo (Recon Team Leader Course) Sept 1968. Was the 1-1 and then the 1-0 on RT Nail, CCS. RTLC was the only military training course I attended where students were sometimes lost to enemy action while in training.

Funny thing. I felt safer on operations they I did in our compound. And I have always felt that the SF guys stuck out in little camps and pushing CIDG or a Mike company had it much worse than I did!


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I feel safe in saying there's not a man alive that wears a Green Beret atop their head who feels like they'll ever be able to truly meet the standard set by SOG. All I can say is, wow. It's an honor.
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