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Old 05-03-2018, 09:49   #1
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Boy Scouts of America ending after 108 years

Boy Scouts to change name, drop 'Boy' and accept girls in 2019, organization says

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After 108 years, the Boy Scouts program is set to drop the gender from its name and re-emerge as "Scouts BSA," a more "inclusive" group that will also soon welcome girls in its ranks.
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Boy Scout leaders have cited busy and diverse families as a reason to make the change. They said they hoped the switch would give parents more options. The Boy Scouts began offering co-ed programs in 1971. Leaders have said participation has been at 2.3 million – down from 2.6 million in 2013.
Another American institution bows to progressive agenda and political correctness.
I hope their number continues to fall until it is necessary to either close down the organization or throw out all the progressive idiots who want to destroy males.
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Old 05-03-2018, 10:10   #2
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Another American institution bows to progressive agenda and political correctness.
We left Scouts a couple years ago at the Cub Scout pack level and never ventured into Boy Scouts. This was right about the same time they announced they were permitting gay scouts to remain.

Our decision to leave was not related to that policy, rather, the national and council levels of professional scout leaders were only concerned about two things, recruiting and fund raising. Bot were oppressive.

The local leaders were mostly pretty good and tried to run the best program that they could but when new scout parents try to get used to the program and jump right into popcorn sales only to be blasted with Friends Of Scouts fundraising, it becomes too much about the money.

Our Council insisted on doing a big sales pitch for the Friends of Scouting that took half of one meeting. Most parents were still trying to figure what they had to pay for after popcorn sales when they had to digest that 70% goes to the council.

"You said the program is $150 this year and Jimmy sold $220 worth."

"With that $220 is sales, you get $66 dollars credit to the program so you still owe $84. Oh, please fill out this Friends of Scouting donation card. 100% participation is required."

"Fuck off......"


However, this may still be a better alternative to the Girl Scouts of America, especially for girls that do not consider an abortion to be a life goal.
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Old 05-03-2018, 10:51   #3
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Ok, Boy Scouts of America is not changing its name. Cub scouts (K-5 grade) will still be called Cub Scouts.Ventures ( ages 14-21 and coed ) will still be called Venntures. Explorere ( ages 14-21 and coed ) will still be called Explorers. The only change is boys and girls age 11-18 will be called Scouts BSA instead of Boy Scouts.

As it stands right now is girls that join Cub Scouts will be in seperate dens than the boys with atleast one female leader. Girls joining Scouts BSA will be in all female troop with atleast one female leader. So you will have a male troop and a female troop. Ventures and Explorers are coed.

Streck-fu I am sorry you had a bad experience. Local Councils are self funded by Friends of Souting, Popcorn sale, United Way or other like programs and other fundraisers. Popcorn is divided 33% to the popcorn company, 33% council and 33% to the unit or youth. Which is beeter than selling cookies.
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Girls joining Scouts BSA will be in all female troop...
For now.
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Old 05-03-2018, 11:28   #5
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I dunno - perhaps coed overnight excursions could be an opportunity for some new merit badges...
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Old 05-03-2018, 11:44   #6
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PSM you're right, for now there will be all girl troops. I ask what is the differnce between a coed Venture crew and a coed Scouting BSA troop.

A coed Venture has to have coed adult leadership. The boys and girls do not share sleeping quarters. All BSA camps are going to single stall toilet and shower facilities so boys and girls do not share gang showers or gang toilets. Think about this, Who thought of putting 14-21 boys and girls together when their hormones are raging was a good idea.
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My dad left Scouting after 36 years as a leader. With me through Cub Scouts, Webelos, And Boy Scouts. Senior Council member, Committee Chair, three time recipient of the Silver Beaver award, was an OA leader, on and on and on....

Same issues as mentioned above -
money money money first / politics politics politics second / parents parents parents third...Scouts? DEAD LAST.

It was a shame watching the transformation...Lord Baden Powell is rolling in his grave.
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Old 05-03-2018, 12:39   #8
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All BSA camps are going to single stall toilet and shower facilities so boys and girls do not share gang showers or gang toilets..
Sounds like the former Boy Scouts is going to need to sell a lot of popcorn to fund their diversity project. Separate sleeping quarters, showers and toilets. Will they be allowing gender benders to choose which facilities to use?
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I dunno - perhaps coed overnight excursions could be an opportunity for some new merit badges...
LOL...And close behind the "Me Too Movement" will be parading around complaining about sexual harassment/assault/and misconduct against the "male" scouts of the "New" BSA....
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Old 05-03-2018, 13:35   #10
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Will they be allowing gender benders to choose which facilities to use?

Not that it really matters.

The single stall toilet or shower is unisex.

Did you ever think what it cost to operate a scout camp.
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“Meatballs” part two!

^^^Silver Eagle- however much it used to cost to run a Scout Camp or Jamboree? The costs just became astronomical and wait for the lawsuits to settle the rape accusations.

Anyway so it was for 108-years BSA = Boy Scouts of America. Now it’s “Scouts BSA” what does BSA stand for? (Boy Scouts of America?)
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Old 05-03-2018, 15:58   #12
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I dunno - perhaps coed overnight excursions could be an opportunity for some new merit badges...
Not sure how many I would get but I would work extra hard for those merit badges LOL
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Silver Beaver award...
There's your new merit badge right there
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Old 05-03-2018, 17:35   #14
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My view only, maybe, but I think the issue isn't the marketing or moniker. The fact, to me, is that it's a continuation - another small piece in the ounces make pounds column - of the blender strategy (set on puree) of what have been fairly successful roles for genders, both functionally & culturally.

This is not about equality in achievement or pay or denial/preference of goals. But there are roles in a civil society that are successfully played by one gender or the other, because one or the other is simply better at it - shown over the span of a very long time. Applies equally whether it's nurturing (which has already diminished because many women simply don't have it because of #MeMeMe) or strength & predatory instincts taught (which is vaporizing fast because so many young men don't... well, they just won't get off the couch and what self-respecting female wants to breed with that...).

It may thrive & probably will because no one will draw a line, but a society is denigrated as a result when they lose the identity that helps them hold onto values that would sustain them.

I'll do my own popcorn & have bought my last shortbread from the grand-daughter. Again, just my $.02, adjusted for the Drachma.

On the bright side, now I only have to remember BSA as being Birmingham Small Arms and how much I miss my 441 Victor Special.
Now get off my lawn.
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Old 05-03-2018, 18:22   #15
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As a former Eagle Scout my only comment is that I didn't leave the Boy Scouts; they left me. Simply put, I can no longer support what they have become.
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