GOP and self immolation

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by Billy L-bach

...the nations metaphoric brake lines have been snipped and this is one hell of a twisting turning road

Actually someone filled them with ATF and they're rotting from the inside out.

[Roguish Lawyer]

Originally Posted by Pete

So the delegates are bound to the candidates even for floor votes? Interesting.

No, this is done in committees and the candidates control who gets on the committees. The suggestion that this rule might be repealed is a baseless and completely silly conspiracy theory.

[Roguish Lawyer]

You want some cheese with that whine, Donald?

http://www.weeklystandard.com/colora...tm_content=TWS

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer

You want some cheese with that whine, Donald?

http://www.weeklystandard.com/colora...tm_content=TWS

Political suicide.

The socialists are laughing their collective asses off.

[Pete]

Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer

No, this is done in committees and the candidates control who gets on the committees. The suggestion that this rule might be repealed is a baseless and completely silly conspiracy theory.

We'll see what happens.

Time will tell.

[Pete]

A nice article on "The Rules"

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/go...rticle/2588247

"...If the party's establishment decides it wants to change the convention rules, it would likely do so at its spring meeting in Florida, according to Blackwell. Blackwell noted that RNC chairman Reince Priebus has "a supermajority" on the standing rules committee, and that advantage will likely change when the GOP gathers in Cleveland for a convention filled with Trump and Cruz delegates.

"Reince has the votes to do that if he decides to do it that way," Blackwell said. "And don't you believe anybody who says—if it does happen that way—that Reince didn't decide to do it that way."

Blackwell sought to change rule 40 against the party establishment's wishes in 2013 and tried to modify it in January 2016, but failed in both efforts. He said he thinks it's too late to make such changes now and added that the changes would be both unfair and catastrophic to the party. It's for this reason that Blackwell said he's not sure "Priebus is prepared to pull the trigger on such a battle" that could end the party.

"They've laid the groundwork for it, but there's been no decision as far as I know to pull the trigger," Blackwell said...."

The whole thing is a good read.

"...As to who will run the convention, Shirley anticipates anarchy.

"It's the wild wild West, is what it is," he said. "The dirty little secret is that the first rule of the convention is there's no rules."."

If they don't change the rules the it's either Trump or Cruz. Neither one is liked by the GOPe.

[Mills]

Originally Posted by Paslode

I am with you TS, Pretty sleazy.

Correct me if I am wrong here, but didn't US soldiers put their lives on the line so Iraqi's could cast a vote and get a purple finger......yet here in the State of Colorado the RNC side stepped the voters and Cruz is creepy enough to accept it.

So when trump won less than 50% of the vote in Florida and received all of the delegates, that was fair?

Not really, but those were the rules. Did I miss something here and Colorado change their rules recently after all of these candidates agreed to run based on these rules?

[Sdiver]

It's not that the rules were "broken", it's the fact that the deck was stacked in the house's favor ... and we all know, the house ALWAYS wins.
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[Paslode]

Originally Posted by Mills

So when trump won less than 50% of the vote in Florida and received all of the delegates, that was fair?

Not really, but those were the rules. Did I miss something here and Colorado change their rules recently after all of these candidates agreed to run based on these rules?

Colorado compares to the flipping of a double headed coin, and the bad part is the Colorado GOPe gloated about it through a Tweet.......We Did it #NeverTrump.

The Cruz camp and GOP establishment leaders strong-armed their way to a sweep by banning Trump delegates and omitting them from the ballots… and listing Cruz delegates TWICE!

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016...ake-delegates/



Think about all the time, energy and money the GOPe, Soros, Zuckerberg and the media are spending on destroying one man.........AMAZING!

[tim180a]

Originally Posted by Paslode

Colorado compares to the flipping of a double headed coin, and the bad part is the Colorado GOPe gloated about it through a Tweet.......We Did it #NeverTrump.


http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016...ake-delegates/


Think about all the time, energy and money the GOPe, Soros, Zuckerberg and the media are spending on destroying one man.........AMAZING!

If the Republican Party would spend half their time and energy vs. the Democrats and did what they were elected to do they wouldn't be in this situation. They don't because there isn't a dimes bit of difference between either party. They are on the same side, and that side isn't of "We The People". They deserve all the scorn and ridicule they are getting.

If Cruz believes he will get this, or any level of support from The Party in the general election, he's not as smart as we are led to believe.

In the end, the Republican Party establishment will get exactly what it wants. President H. Rodham Clinton.

[PSM]

As of last week, Trump had 37% of the votes and 45% of the delegates. Is that fair? I guess so because I didn't hear him whining about it.

The delegate count is weighted toward the front runners. Trump gets a 22% bump as front runner and Cruz gets a 14% bump. Them's the rules.

Pat

[craigepo]

Originally Posted by PSM

As of last week, Trump had 37% of the votes and 45% of the delegates. Is that fair? I guess so because I didn't hear him whining about it.

The delegate count is weighted toward the front runners. Trump gets a 22% bump as front runner and Cruz gets a 14% bump. Them's the rules.

Pat

No one cares about logic or rules. The American public just wants to emote.

I heard a guy talking the other day. His question, when discussing oncoming generations, was; "How do we reach people who hear with their eyes and think with their heart?".

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by PSM

As of last week, Trump had 37% of the votes and 45% of the delegates. Is that fair? I guess so because I didn't hear him whining about it.

The delegate count is weighted toward the front runners. Trump gets a 22% bump as front runner and Cruz gets a 14% bump. Them's the rules.

Pat

It is not fair, he should have 75% of the delegates.

[Golf1echo]

The graphic shows some interesting dynamics, to me it puts into focus why the Left is so bent on the ridiculous neutering of our immigration laws at this point it time. It also points to policies of keeping a citizenry divided, imagine if we had a broader message the majority could agree on....the bad politicians would not stand a chance. My take is more of the same from the Left and the right extremes with little regard for shaping a centrist government that would empower We the People.

WSJ: http://graphics.wsj.com/elections/2016/roots-of-revolt/

A very good reason why future parties do need to reach out more and that we cede no more of our sovereignty....

[Patrin]

Originally Posted by Golf1echo

The graphic shows some interesting dynamics, to me it puts into focus why the Left is so bent on the ridiculous neutering of our immigration laws at this point it time. It also points to policies of keeping a citizenry divided, imagine if we had a broader message the majority could agree on....the bad politicians would not stand a chance. My take is more of the same from the Left and the right extremes with little regard for shaping a centrist government that would empower We the People.

WSJ: http://graphics.wsj.com/elections/2016/roots-of-revolt/

A very good reason why future parties do need to reach out more and that we cede no more of our sovereignty....

The left looks south of the border and sees fellow travelers...corrupt socialist governance lording over, mostly, poorly educated citizens. Why not let them in if you want more control?

As far as a centrist government...what is that? Who represents the right wing extreme, now, in America? The Tea Party? We know who the left is.

There is Conservative, or right (what is right and works), vs. every other inferior ideology...to include a compromising centrist.

A centrist (moderate) is just someone on their way to becoming a liberal.