04-27-2013, 19:21
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Shot an intruder today
No idea how long he's been hanging out in my garage
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04-27-2013, 19:37
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Thats one fat bastard there.
The eats must be good in your garage 
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04-27-2013, 19:40
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Far bigger than what we've been whacking down here!  Nancy found shed skin in the garage last year.
She got her first one of this season a couple of weeks ago. It was a youngster without rattles. It had a deformed head, also.
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04-27-2013, 19:42
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It had a deformed head, also.
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Before or after she got a hold of it?
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04-27-2013, 19:43
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If you aren't already aware of this, get a good smell of it!! You can smell snakes WAY before you will see them or hear them!!!
Later
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04-27-2013, 19:46
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Before. One side was much larger than the other. She got it in the neck just behind the head. It was kind of greenish, so I'm guessing it may have been a Mojave.
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04-27-2013, 19:54
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If you aren't already aware of this, get a good smell of it!! You can smell snakes WAY before you will see them or hear them!!!
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Yeah, my dog was with and he's a good snaker but the 'garage smells' hid the scent and the little devil was under a car. I saw him when we pulled out.
Our own fault, we put in a drip system for the cactus etc so bunnies show up, ground squirrels etc...food, water, shade...perfect.
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04-27-2013, 20:34
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Before. One side was much larger than the other. She got it in the neck just behind the head. It was kind of greenish, so I'm guessing it may have been a Mojave.
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Pat:
In case you didn't know, Mojave's have VERY nasty venom.
TR
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04-27-2013, 20:36
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Caught one that fat on a survival FTX once. Turned out to be preggy. Slit it open and it was like snakes on a plane.
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04-27-2013, 20:50
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Pat:
In case you didn't know, Mojave's have VERY nasty venom.
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Yes sir, we do know. If it was one, it was the first we've seen here. My wife is a volunteer at the BLM's San Pedro House and is getting a pretty good education on snakes.
The Mojaves are supposed to be very aggressive and this one was. The Western DBs (coon tail) are pretty laid back, so to speak. I hate killing the WDBs, but we do when they are in the garden, because of the dog.
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04-27-2013, 20:55
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Pat:
In case you didn't know, Mojave's have VERY nasty venom.
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I concur here!! The Mojaves have a dual toxin both anti coag and a neuro!!
I don't even think they have an anti-venom for them, they usually kill them before they can make it to the Hospital!!
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04-27-2013, 21:15
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PSM:
Save the dog. Use the BFR.
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04-27-2013, 21:15
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I concur here!! The Mojaves have a dual toxin both anti coag and a neuro!!
I don't even think they have an anti-venom for them, they usually kill them before they can make it to the Hospital!!
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They've been know to drop a horse in 100 meters ( mojave's)...I kill the diamond backs because they are territorial, they don't roam much....I've literally had them knock on the front door and had a bull snake living in a living room potted plant til my wife saw him. He got a pass, good snake.
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04-27-2013, 21:21
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Nice kill. Are you going to keep the skin? Last year when I was working out in the desert we were killing one about every other week. I squashed one when I was driving a piece of heavy equipment. It was six feet long and as big around as my forearm.
Regarding the Mojave Green, a boy was bit by one last summer here in California and it took 42 vials of anti-venom to save him. If I remember correctly, that type of anti-venom costs about 5K per vial to produce.
In another incident, a young college student was bitten by a Pacific Diamondback in San Diego County and saved with anti-venom. The hospital then handed him a bill for $150,000. He didn't have health insurance either.
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04-27-2013, 21:50
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They've been know to drop a horse in 100 meters ( mojave's)...I kill the diamond backs because they are territorial, they don't roam much....I've literally had them knock on the front door and had a bull snake living in a living room potted plant til my wife saw him. He got a pass, good snake.
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You Guys need to import some Texas Rat/Corn Snakes!! They are in the "King Snake" Family and will keep your AO clear of the Bad Guys!! The only problem will be keeping OTHERS from killing them!!
Here's a link to the Rat Snake then Corn Snake:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elaphe_...ta_lindheimeri
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corn_snake
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