09-08-2015, 08:55
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I wonder how PFC Snuffy applies for, and gets his overtime pay when he is required to work beyond a 40 hour week?
...these same social engineering shit bags want to keep giving the baby factories increasingly easy access to taxpayer funded medical care while service members are increasingly being asked to foot co-pays and other ankle biter fees.
...and has anyone tried to get care at Clarke Clinic lately?
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09-08-2015, 09:03
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I forget, but did we (AD military members) get time and a half when working holidays, such as Labor Day, Thanksgiving, MLK day, etc. ? I do remember standing in a tower while stationed in West Germany, freezing my ass off, on Christmas Day.
I forget, but were we able to adjust our shifts/duties around school schedules, kids schedules (scholastic, sports, extra curricular, etc.) on a regular basis ?
I forget, did we get overtime (time and a half) after working 40 hours a week?
I don't remember being able to do/get any of the above.
I was on AD a long time ago, maybe times have changed.
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09-08-2015, 11:46
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I agree with everything being said here. In all fainess though, nobody is mentioning all the free time off. Yea, I know. Here are some examples; three and four day weekends that begin at 1500, comp days for 24 hour duty (CQ, SDNCO, etc), time off in the middle of the day for various appointments on base, time off in the middle of the day to renew liscence plates, etc. Leaving work at 1500 on most days in garrison (Not for the staff guys), going to the gym in the middle of the day, etc.
I get it. In my twenty year career I have deployed many times, written several wills, been cold, hot, hungry, dehydrated, exhausted, etc. Have been separated from my family for extended periods. I get it.
IMHO, while my pay and compensation was never enough to get rich on, I think I made out ok, or at least better than I expected when I came joined.
I think this government mandated $15 an hour is wrong and should be set by the market not the government, but I also think most soldiers have it pretty good.
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09-08-2015, 14:46
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
I suspect that your average franchise holder says, "I have 12 jobs at $8 an hour, and no jobs at $15 per hour. Now where is that robot burger flipper brochure?"
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Did you write Iacocca's proposal to the UAW for him back in the 80's?
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09-08-2015, 15:50
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In all fainess though, nobody is mentioning all the free time off.
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During my time in uniform I have been "fucked over" way more times than I have enjoyed this thing known as "all the free time off"
...up to and including LOSING leave time because I didn't get a chance to use it during the year.
My "extra" free time has always been delivered to me printed on the back of a WonkaBar golden ticket, delivered by a bigfoot riding a unicorn.
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09-08-2015, 16:53
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“Unfortunately, the real minimum wage is always zero, regardless of the laws, and that is the wage that many workers receive in the wake of the creation or escalation of a government-mandated minimum wage, because they lose their jobs or fail to find jobs when they enter the labor force. Making it illegal to pay less than a given amount does not make a worker’s productivity worth that amount—and, if it is not, that worker is unlikely to be employed.”
― Thomas Sowell, Basic Economics: A Citizen's Guide to the Economy
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09-08-2015, 16:57
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So, we have run almost all of the manufacturing jobs out of this country, and now we are going to kill off most of the service industry jobs as well.
What will the real unemployment rate be after this plan is implemented?
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09-08-2015, 18:19
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Originally Posted by Brush Okie
All part of the plan to turn us I to a third world country second to all. Money equals power so if you get the whole country depandat on the govt you stay in power. Stalin would be proud.
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Precisely. Increase the number of the unweaned. How will the teat cope? The power of the (printing) press; they will need to do a currency redesign for all the extra 0's necessary on the bills.
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09-08-2015, 23:19
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For some time oil field jobs which paid well more than $15/hr couldn't find workers.
Had to regularly pass piss tests for the jobs...
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