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Old 09-07-2015, 14:17   #1
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berry's minimum wage $15 @ hr

I know,, preaching to the choir,, but I was thinking the web crawlers might help distribution??

berry wants a $15 min wage,, well almost,, but not really.. He just sign off on a BIG 1.3% wage hike for all service members.

Problem is that's not even close to his $15 promise..

Attached is the 2015 pay scale for all military personnel in pay grades E1 thru 2nd Lt.

As most service members work around the clock 24/7 a good chunk of their time,, I took the number 60hr a week as a fair average,,

That works out to $3900 @ month.

You need to be in the service for quit a while before you get to the $15 STARTING MIN berry is promising..

I took the liberty of hi-lighting the point at which you need to cross to get MINIMUM STARTING wage.

1)you need to attain the rank of E7, after 12 years to make minimum wage

2)all ranks under E7 will NEVER make berry's minimum wage

Now,, Who deserves the $15 minimum wages

1)The gay/gal who "do you want fry's with your bugger"??

2)The person that has to write their own obituary and last will & testament before they go to work.

I didn't try to muddy it out with hazardous duty pay or other allowances..

PS:

As of 2015 there is about 1.14 enlisted active duty personal.

As of 2015 there are 3.7 million fast food employees.

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Old 09-07-2015, 15:24   #2
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You forgot to add in the cost of housing, meals and other bennies like the commisary.
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Old 09-07-2015, 15:42   #3
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$15 x 60 hr = $900 x 4 weeks = $3600

Let's flesh this out some. What is the civilian equivalent of an E6 over 14 or an E7 over 8?

Then comparable monthly salary for those professions?
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Old 09-07-2015, 16:45   #4
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An E7-E8 would anomaly have the same budget and personnel responsibilities as a store manager at Micky D's(44K) or assistant manager at Wally-World (50k), less incoming and medevac.

I use the long formula to smooth wks to months.

((60*15)*52)/12 = 3900

I made no attempt to compare 1 to 1 as bugger flippers don't do any rucking..
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Old 09-07-2015, 18:22   #5
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$15 x 60 hr = $900 x 4 weeks = $3600

Let's flesh this out some. What is the civilian equivalent of an E6 over 14 or an E7 over 8?

Then comparable monthly salary for those professions?
A month is 4 -1/3 weeks. $15 x 60 hrs = $900 x 4 -1/3 was = $3900.
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An E7-E8 would anomaly have the same budget and personnel responsibilities as a store manager at Micky D's(44K) or assistant manager at Wally-World (50k), less incoming and medevac.

I use the long formula to smooth wks to months.

((60*15)*52)/12 = 3900

I made no attempt to compare 1 to 1 as bugger flippers don't do any rucking..
How much pension would a 38 year old burger flipper expect when retiring with 20 years on the job?

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Old 09-07-2015, 18:43   #7
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Ok, got it.
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I suspect that your average franchise holder says, "I have 12 jobs at $8 an hour, and no jobs at $15 per hour. Now where is that robot burger flipper brochure?"

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Now where is that robot burger flipper brochure?"

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Here's the link: http://www.businessinsider.com/momen...r-robot-2014-8

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How much pension would a 38 year old burger flipper expect when retiring with 20 years on the job?
No guess,, but if McD's are like most companies, they have a 401K plan and match for every dollar the employee contributes, to some level. It's employee funded and the funds are selected by the employee..

Other than federal and union retirement plans, there are very few traditional retirement plan left.
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How much pension would a 38 year old burger flipper expect when retiring with 20 years on the job?
Depends on how wisely he conducted his affairs.
It's possible to build your own future.

My best friend dropped out of college, bummed around for awhile, and then took an entry level job at Target near minimum wage at age 22.

He eventually bought a house with his brother and took on renters.
In time, he invested, started side businesses, bought real estate, etc., and lived a frugal lifestyle.

He was a millionaire by the age of 40.
He still works as an hourly employee at Target.
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How much pension would a 38 year old burger flipper expect when retiring with 20 years on the job?
I find it hard to believe that anyone with a smidgen of talent and initiative would still be in an entry level position after 20 years of work.

Kind of like asking what pension an E-2 over 20 would receive.

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How much pension would a 38 year old burger flipper expect when retiring with 20 years on the job?
A burger flipper would be equal to a private up to specialist. Privates through specialists don't make it to 20 based on up or out.
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How much pension would a 38 year old burger flipper expect when retiring with 20 years on the job?
How many times in his career would the burger flipper be required to move his entire family to a different state or overseas? How many times would the burger flipper be sent away from his family for a month or much longer (exercises or deployment)? How many 24 hour shifts would the burger flipper have to work in his career? How often during his career would the burger flipper face an 'up or out' promotion schema? How many substantially different jobs would the burger flipper hold during his time with the franchise?

The above doesn't even touch upon the larger issue of getting injured, permanently maimed or killed.
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Same problem with legislation like the Dream Act - comparing a couple years of college to a couple years service in the military is IMO not equivalent.

College students go to parties, the library and football games.

The military goes on field training exercises and to war.
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