02-19-2004, 00:02
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SWMS glove review
hi all,
i just posted an inital review of SWMS (southwest motorsports) gloves on my site:
http://www.militarymorons.com/equipm...nt.3.html#swms
username and password are both 'mm' to view fullsize pics.
cheers,
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02-19-2004, 08:19
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Never heard of them myself, they look good. Given the option I wear gloves when shooting, especially in the heat, prevents slippage just as a golf glove does when playing golf.
As far as “maximum finger dexterity” is concerned we’re not going to realize that with gloves that are “made to last.” The life of a good golf glove can be measured in hours. They provide “maximum finger dexterity” at the cost of quick wear out. IMO until we move past “animal skins” as a glove component we’re not going to achieve maximum finger dexterity without sacrificing long term use.
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02-19-2004, 09:04
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Where do I get these?
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02-19-2004, 09:18
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MM:
Excellent review, I'd like to see more of that here.
I am currently using the Hatch glove, need to go to the short cuffed version soon. Very comfortable and utilitarian, with several good features.
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02-19-2004, 13:21
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Re: Where do I get these?
I dont know where you are, but most outdoor shops that carry extensive hiking, climbing, canoeing, and kayaking gear sell the Salomon brand.
I have a pair of Salomon Expert Mid's and can tell you they are the best hiking boot I have ever purchased.
HTH
EDITED because I cant spell for crap.
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02-19-2004, 14:44
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TR - thanks - i'll definitely give everyone the heads up on anything new i come across.
like any product, YMMV.
TS - i agree- most of the time, dexterity/finger sensitivity is inversely proportional to durability. but better quality leather can outlast cheaper, thicker leather, so that's a factor to take into account. i ride motorcycles (road bikes), and have a pair of kangaroo leather gloves. they are by far the most supple motorcycle gloves i've owned, and have held up though a couple of crashes. i've trashed a pair of cheaper but thicker gloves. the SWMS gloves feel like they are a pretty good balance of durability/dexterity. just need to put them through some wear and tear to see how they hold up.
guy - my wife bought me those solomon expert mids. found them on sale at a shoe store at the local mall for 30% off retail. the insoles didn't provide much arch support so i replaced them with the green superfeet. i use them for daily wear, and hill/stair training with a ruck. they took me through 4 days of the SHOT show and my feet were fine. knee were a bit achy, but then i'm getting old. also take a look at the merrell sawtooth boots as an alternative. they're built a bit more solidly than the salomons.
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02-21-2004, 10:46
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Hi-Tech Impact II CT Gloves
Been using these gloves hard for the past two months, and they are still going strong. The are great for shooting leaving ample dexterity, to transition, tac-load, or whatever else is needed, and they are padded on the knuckles for thumping people good. I'd recomend them for anyone.
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02-23-2004, 08:47
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Originally posted by Team Sergeant
Never heard of them myself, they look good. Given the option I wear gloves when shooting, especially in the heat, prevents slippage just as a golf glove does when playing golf.
As far as ?maximum finger dexterity? is concerned we?re not going to realize that with gloves that are ?made to last.? The life of a good golf glove can be measured in hours. They provide ?maximum finger dexterity? at the cost of quick wear out. IMO until we move past ?animal skins? as a glove component we?re not going to achieve maximum finger dexterity without sacrificing long term use.
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The good news for you is that they are in Phoenix.
You could conceivably drive over, try on some and talk with them, maybe give us a review, if you do.
Just a thought.
TR
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02-24-2004, 09:29
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Top:
The good news for you is that they are in Phoenix.
You could conceivably drive over, try on some and talk with them, maybe give us a review, if you do.
Just a thought.
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Roger,
Will effect linkup soonest.
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02-24-2004, 09:45
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I smell a potential group buy coming if he goes there!
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02-24-2004, 13:37
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TS,
If you want or need some help let me know and I will shoot down for a weekend or try and get a day off.
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02-24-2004, 14:21
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TS,
If you want or need some help let me know and I will shoot down for a weekend or try and get a day off.
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Thanks Joe. I think I can handle them. It's a small outfit, run by women. I'll have CAS on standby should I run into any trouble.
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02-24-2004, 15:38
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Well I can always hold a video camera for propper documentation.
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02-24-2004, 23:46
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TS,
if you see the owner, martina, tell her militarymoron said 'hi'.
cheers and thanks,
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02-24-2004, 23:52
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Thanks Joe. I think I can handle them. It's a small outfit, run by women. I'll have CAS on standby should I run into any trouble.
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Somebody's gonna pay for that one...LOL
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