04-27-2016, 08:16
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Does Trump Have Conservative Principles?
In my opinion, Trump's principles serve Trump. Are we to believe that after a lifetime of supporting progressive causes and politicians, he has had an epiphany, and he is now a constitutional conservative?
If he is elected, we will have at least four-years to answer that question. The reason I support Ted Cruz for President is that he has a track record of fighting for and supporting constitutional principles. Donald Trump does not.
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Conservatives for Trump? - Thomas Sowell
The sudden appearance of Donald Trump on the political horizon last year may have been surprising, but not nearly as surprising as seeing some conservatives supporting him.
Does Trump have conservative principles? Does he have any principles at all, other than promoting Donald Trump? A smorgasbord of political positions -- none of them indicating any serious thought about complicated issues -- is not a principle. Nor is cheering for himself and boasting about all the great things he is going to do as President.
Haven't we seen this movie before? Wasn't Barack Obama going to heal the racial divide, end the partisan bickering in Washington, have the most transparent administration ever, lower the cost of health care and let you keep your own doctor?
...For conservatives especially, there is finally a real choice for a change -- and a sharp contrast with Donald Trump. Senator Ted Cruz has a track record that leaves no doubt as to his adherence to conservative principles. And he is as thoroughly versed in the issues facing this country as anyone who has run for President since Ronald Reagan.
Has Senator Cruz been flawless? Certainly not, and this column has more than once pointed out some of those flaws. But he has both the principles and the intellect for the job. Given the alternatives -- Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton -- that should be more than enough this election year.
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04-27-2016, 08:41
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Trump Train
Well, if everybody would get on the Trump Train and vote R down ticket he'll have to deal with a Republican majority.
Unless you're saying the Republicans in Congress are do nothings. Oh! Wait! What am I saying?
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04-27-2016, 09:35
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Well, if everybody would get on the Trump Train and vote R down ticket he'll have to deal with a Republican majority.
Unless you're saying the Republicans in Congress are do nothings. Oh! Wait! What am I saying?
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LOL, the current GOP, all talk, and absolutely no action. And exactly why Mr. Trump will be the next President of the United States.
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04-27-2016, 09:45
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I believe that "conservative" and "liberal" values have gotten as muddied as the "Republican" and "Democrat" values have.
Who knows what any of them are from day-to-day, except chameleons!
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04-27-2016, 13:02
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I'm looking for an Executive not an Ideologue.
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04-27-2016, 13:36
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SF-TX,
Aside from maybe Ben Carson, name one of this years candidates that doesn't have some suspect behaviors, hasn't talked out both ends and doesn;t have something personally gain.
The same can be said for the stellar individuals like George Soros, Karl Rove, Bill Kriostol, Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney who trying to upend the election.
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04-27-2016, 14:10
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I'm inclined to look at the totality of the list of enemies opposing anyone seeking office.
That tends to say much about them.
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04-27-2016, 14:38
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Are there any true Republicans left out there?
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04-27-2016, 17:32
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Are there any true Republicans left out there?
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Yes but they won't run for President, or the lack sufficient polish to win a general election.
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04-27-2016, 17:51
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The Republican party has failed to groom the next generation for leadership, instead they relied on running on fossil fuel, i.e. McCain and crew. Too bad, so sad. Lifetime Republicans like me have had enough of the establishment.
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04-27-2016, 19:29
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the lack sufficient polish to win a general election.
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Polish or a guarantor of all that can be free? The latter.
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Are there any true Republicans left out there?
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The Freedom Caucus in the House...about 40 members...they caused John Boner to step down, a laudable achievement.
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04-27-2016, 23:47
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Are there any true Republicans left out there?
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The Freedom Caucus in the House...about 40 members...they caused John Boner to step down, a laudable achievement.
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Whether or not he would want to be President, I don't know, I've mentioned Congressman Mark Meadows before. I can tell you he is trying very hard to do whats right for this country. He was the catalyst in getting Boner out and exposing the culture of retaliation within the Republican Party. He believes in the Constitution and keeps a sharp eye out for intrusions upon it. Mark comes from a little town in Western North Carolina, I'm sure there are more out there, just need a comprehensive strategy to get them in place and separate the professional politicians from their money and power quests.
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04-28-2016, 00:39
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Echo the opinion that I want an executive and not an ideologue. I firmly believe that Trump serves only himself and will do so at the expense of the country. His brash talk is fueled by his love of the praise he receives for it, not for his beliefs in principles. In my opinion.
Cruz, like every candidate, is far from perfect. But I believe him to be the better politician (in the actual definition, not the negative connotation it has come to be) and less self-serving of the two.
A choice between Hilary and Trump will leave me frozen and indecisive for the first time in a long time.
... Is it too late to nominate Bill Pullman to play his character from Independence Day for four years?
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04-28-2016, 02:54
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Mot much different
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... I firmly believe that Trump serves only himself and will do so at the expense of the country....
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Not much different from most politicians in Washington who become millionaires after they get to Washington.
At least Trump will not be selling his vote for pack money.
So he backs business friendly legislation? Didn't somebody once say "A raising tide lifts all boats"?
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04-28-2016, 08:23
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I'm inclined to look at the totality of the list of enemies opposing anyone seeking office.
That tends to say much about them.
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The crying POS, John Boehner, on his feelings toward Ted Cruz, Trump and Kasich:
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When it comes to Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, even a few months’ time out of Congress has done little to lessen former Speaker John Boehner’s contempt for his former Capitol Hill colleague.
“Lucifer in the flesh,” Boehner told an audience at Stanford on Wednesday night, according to the Stanford Daily. “I have Democrat friends and Republican friends. I get along with almost everyone, but I have never worked with a more miserable son of a bitch in my life.”
...As far as Donald Trump goes, Boehner remarked that he had golfed with Trump for years and that the two are “texting buddies.”
On fellow Ohioan John Kasich, Boehner was magnanimous.
The governor “requires more effort on my behalf than all my other friends … but he’s still my friend, and I love him,” Boehner said, according to the report.
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