02-20-2011, 04:29
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Planning of training
Hi guys,
I have some questions about planning of training in US SF, and military in general. How much in advance you guys have to plan to get the vehicles, ammo, ranges, weapons from the armory etc., if you want to go shooting, and in what manner you have to do it? What´s the procedure then, do you have to place an "observer" while the rest shoots, gate guards, raise red flag, honk the siren, or something like that? I am just curiuos how it goes elsewhere, thanks.
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02-20-2011, 06:04
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Completely depends on the requirements set forth by the installation that you are training on.
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02-20-2011, 06:58
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Completely depends on the requirements set forth by the installation that you are training on.
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So every base has its own standarts for weapons withdraw, ammo, range and vehicle use planning? Could you please give me some example? I am mainly interested in HOW MUCH IN ADVANCE these requests have to be done/send/reported. Thanks much...
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02-20-2011, 07:23
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I am mainly interested in HOW MUCH IN ADVANCE these requests have to be done/send/reported. Thanks much...
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Completely depends on the requirements of the installation you are training on.
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02-20-2011, 07:46
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Completely depends on the requirements of the installation you are training on.
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Exactly. The 3 Shop used to be referred to as POT (Plans, Ops, Tng) and either held or had access to all the regs necessary for carrying out those functions - including applicable local (unit, post) addendums to the regs.
Has the Army changed so much that soldiers don't understand the staff numbering system and its functions? 
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02-20-2011, 08:32
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never mind
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02-20-2011, 08:48
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It isnt that you irritated anyone.
It is that there isnt AN answer to your question other than the one you were given already, twice.
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02-20-2011, 09:04
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It isnt that you irritated anyone.
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That eventuality does exist.
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02-20-2011, 10:13
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Thanks Richard, but I am not US Army, so I have no idea about three shops or reg addendums. If I irritated somebody with this thread, please just ignore it.
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I'm not irritated at all, I just don't know a better way to answer. 
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02-20-2011, 10:34
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Thanks Richard, but I am not US Army, so I have no idea about three shops or reg addendums. If I irritated somebody with this thread, please just ignore it.
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Your profile stated active duty soldier and indicated a European background so I assumed you understood the Continental Staff System which we and the free world have used throughout my lifetime.
http://english.turkcebilgi.com/General+Staff
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02-20-2011, 11:35
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Your profile stated active duty soldier and indicated a European background so I assumed you understood the Continental Staff System which we and the free world have used throughout my lifetime.
http://english.turkcebilgi.com/General+Staff
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PM´d whole trouble to Richard, thanks all
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02-20-2011, 11:37
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Sounds as if you've got your work cut out for you. Good luck.
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02-20-2011, 11:43
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Our system is extremely inflexible and rigid in case of range planning and use, and I hoped to find something better. No problem at all, I can ask somebody directly later. No anger intended, and thanks everybody  . |
Sounds like your system is like ours!!!! seriously our system is just as bad except down range.
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02-20-2011, 12:08
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Sounds like your system is like ours!!!! seriously our system is just as bad except down range. |
Thanks buddy, I don´t know if I should be glad or sad to hear that .
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02-20-2011, 18:17
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Bushranger, it is not as hard as tehy are making it out to be. I have reaquested and received ranges the day before training and even teh day of training. It requires only a good plan, a good reason, and a valid requirement. That is for fort Bragg, but I have talked with Fort Campball and found the same to be true. If you are asking for training areas, or ranges on shrot notice without a solid training plan or reason for short notice then the answer will be no.
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