07-31-2016, 17:22
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Koch Not Supporting Trump
...so, time for a bake sale.
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COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. — From a luxury hotel on the edge of the Rocky Mountains, some of the nation's most powerful Republican donors are rebelling against Donald Trump.
Billionaire industrialist Charles Koch, host of the exclusive weekend retreat, did not mention Trump by name as warned that political leaders are giving "frightening" answers to America's challenges. One of his chief lieutenants was more direct as he made clear that Koch's expansive political network would not use its tremendous resources to help Trump win this fall.
"We're focused on the Senate," said Mark Holden, general counsel and senior vice president of Koch Industries.
He noted that none of the presidential candidates are aligned with the Koch network "from a values, and beliefs and policy perspective." Trump's dire warnings of growing crime in America, Holden said, simply aren't accurate.
"We're much safer," Holden said. "That's what the data shows."
Koch described the 2016 "political situation" this way: "We don't really, in some cases, don't really have good options."
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07-31-2016, 18:39
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But saying he would vote for Hillary is a "blood libel".
http://on.wsj.com/2aHrtW1
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07-31-2016, 19:38
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What will the DNC do with all those commercials they already filmed touting the evil evil Koch Brothers supporting the Donald?
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07-31-2016, 21:16
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So, do you mean that the Koch brothers don't think that they can own Trump with their money? Trump is such a douche. He is the candidate of hate. He hates everybody. Even those simply want him do do what they want in return for their big donation.
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08-01-2016, 08:33
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So, do you mean that the Koch brothers don't think that they can own Trump with their money? Trump is such a douche. He is the candidate of hate. He hates everybody. Even those simply want him do do what they want in return for their big donation.
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We might be related? 
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08-01-2016, 08:40
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Politically, I am surprised they did throw luke warm support for Johnson.
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08-01-2016, 10:25
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I hate everybody also. I guess Trump gets my vote.
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08-01-2016, 10:29
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I am not voting for Trump, I am voting for the best chance against Hitlary.
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08-01-2016, 12:42
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The Koch bros. know they'll get nothing for their 'investment'....the normal quid pro quo of the average billionaires 'donation'.
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08-01-2016, 17:49
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The Koch bros. know they'll get nothing for their 'investment'....the normal quid pro quo of the average billionaires 'donation'.
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PRB. Exactly. That's what I tried to insinuate (but did a poor job).
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08-04-2016, 17:55
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Screw Kochs'
I am beginning to think that any Democrat politician and even now Repub politicians are out for what they can personally get out of the system and couldn't care less about what America really needs.
I can see Dem. pounding on Trump, but I think Repubs are doing more damage than the Dems. Of course Trump is doing enough damage all by himself.
Rock on Trump. 
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08-04-2016, 18:12
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I am beginning to think that any Democrat politician and even now Repub politicians are out for what they can personally get out of the system and couldn't care less about what America really needs.
I can see Dem. pounding on Trump, but I think Repubs are doing more damage than the Dems. Of course Trump is doing enough damage all by himself.
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08-04-2016, 22:12
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I am not voting for Trump, I am voting for the best chance against Hitlary.
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We had the best chance at Hillary.
He was slandered by a supermarket tabloid.
Trump can't open his mouth without putting his foot in it. If we really wanted him to stay on message and actually beat that pants suit wearing hatchet wound............we wouldn't be so complicit to "get on board". We would continue to be critical in order to move him in the right direction. Not let him do whatever the fuck he wants whilst being guided by Gerald Fords delegate whip and russian lobbyist Paul "establishment" manafort.
Meanwhile, we ignored a former solicitor general of Texas who would have actually focused on the issues and DESTROYED her over this email garbage. Any 18F would burn in the bottemless pit of hell if they did a fraction of what this cunt did, yet...............The Trumpster fire would still rather attack Ted Cruz after being nominated.
Seriously.........burn it down. Burn it all the fuck down.
No offense......just disgusted to know that my fucking Team Sergeant time will happen to fall in line with this cunts presidency and lack thereof leadership.
I would be happy to throw my support behind Trump.
If he gave me a reason to.
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08-06-2016, 22:21
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So, who's going to, " burn it down," if not Trump?
it's all good. Don't like Trump due to your principles? Sit it out or vote independent... And don't feel bad when Hillary is elected and 3 liberal Supreme Court Justices are elected.
Seriously. Stand up. Be proud.
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08-07-2016, 12:01
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Originally Posted by abc_123
So, who's going to, " burn it down," if not Trump?
it's all good. Don't like Trump due to your principles? Sit it out or vote independent... And don't feel bad when Hillary is elected and 3 liberal Supreme Court Justices are elected.
Seriously. Stand up. Be proud.
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 Agreed! If you can't stand for liberty, justice and the FLAG, what else?
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