Socialist / Communist President Sanders?

[Guymullins]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

Am I the only American that is in disbelief that more than half this nation wants an openly socialist/communist as a "president"?

(Yes kids, the line between socialism and communism is very thin)

I believe that this Sanders man is in fact a bigger danger than Obama was to America. In South Africa, we made the mistake of presuming that Communism was dead when the Berlin Wall fell. The people who held power then voted to go to a majority rule system that put the "old Communists" into the presidency and government. Although the Soviet Union was a thing of the past and China was becoming a Command Capitalist society, it didn't protect us from a small band of Communists who tirelessly wangled their way into the cabinet over the years without having to test themselves democratically. This small group work hard to bring about their dream of a New Democratic Revolution, which means the total breakdown of our capitalist system and replacing it with an entirely nationalised country, centrally controlled by card carrying Communists.
Despite having no successful models to point to, the old style Communists still hang on to their dreams and are prepared to totally destroy the country in order to realise them.
I hope America has not been lulled into believing that Communism is dead. It isn't and it lies ready to destroy you in seemingly benign creatures like Mr Sanders.

[miclo18d]

Originally Posted by Guymullins

I believe that this Sanders man is in fact a bigger danger than Obama was to America. In South Africa, we made the mistake of presuming that Communism was dead when the Berlin Wall fell. The people who held power then voted to go to a majority rule system that put the "old Communists" into the presidency and government. Although the Soviet Union was a thing of the past and China was becoming a Command Capitalist society, it didn't protect us from a small band of Communists who tirelessly wangled their way into the cabinet over the years without having to test themselves democratically. This small group work hard to bring about their dream of a New Democratic Revolution, which means the total breakdown of our capitalist system and replacing it with an entirely nationalised country, centrally controlled by card carrying Communists.
Despite having no successful models to point to, the old style Communists still hang on to their dreams and are prepared to totally destroy the country in order to realise them.
I hope America has not been lulled into believing that Communism is dead. It isn't and it lies ready to destroy you in seemingly benign creatures like Mr Sanders.

I think we're too late to think we haven't been lulled. What these folks think is that there IS such thing as "soft socialism" or a "socio-capitalist" solution. They always use Europe as the example. What they don't understand is that Europe's "socialism" is propped up by aMErica's (thanks Billy) capitalism. Once we go FULL RETARD it will send the world into chaos, and then, who knows what will happen... Civil wars, revolutions of all sorts, fascism/warlordism will be the "new normal".

[Box]

why shouldnt we adopt european style democratic socialsim? Why is socialsim so bad?

...the europeans are thriving on that shit arent they?
...the russians and the chinese seem to be doing just fine.
...it isnt hurting South Africa much - hell, Guymullins still has internet access so whats the big deal?

I know a kid that jumped off a bridge - why cant I jump off the bridge too ???



harumph harumph harumph harumph

silly americans are so stupid

[RomanCandle]

Originally Posted by miclo18d

I think we're too late to think we haven't been lulled. What these folks think is that there IS such thing as "soft socialism" or a "socio-capitalist" solution. They always use Europe as the example. What they don't understand is that Europe's "socialism" is propped up by aMErica's (thanks Billy) capitalism. Once we go FULL RETARD it will send the world into chaos, and then, who knows what will happen... Civil wars, revolutions of all sorts, fascism/warlordism will be the "new normal".

This is what worries me. Over here they also gauge the atmosphere and attitude from around the world particularly the US. Once as you say they see the US administration go full retard (They have been noting it for a long while already) These guys are waiting in the wings and they will play a pivotal role no matter who is in the majority. These guys will turn South Africa into the next Somalia. They have already caused the ANC Youth League to "raise their game" and threaten a Civil War and in a short two years have shaken any semblance of political stability (or the illusion thereof) to its core. You are absolutely right. The ramifications of these elections are of global consequence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swCYjkGzTdI

[bailaviborita]

The educational system has indeed turned everyone into socialists/leftists. Every class I go to there is a dig on conservatives about being heartless, evil, hating the poor- etc. It is taken as conventional wisdom- no-one even questions it.

The current batch of youngsters think all the Founding Fathers were evil--- and their emphasis on freedoms evil as well. The only thing that matters is "social justice." And the best way to get there is to split everyone into identity groups- the more the merrier.

A great question today is, if you're in the military- what are you fighting for? Several think-tank sessions around SOCOM have asked these specific questions lately:

- What do we do the first time a unit or country refuse to let an ODA in to train their bubbas because there's a female on the ODA? Will the State Dept take them off the vetted list and treat them like they were a human rights abusing unit? Will they make a international incident out of it? Demand the country "fix" themselves?
- What happens when a unit or country does the same about a homosexual?
- What about a transsexual?
- How can our psyop units counter the propaganda that the Kardashians and the like send overseas? Hollywood is doing a better job than ISIS ever thought to turn people against the West and America.
- Will we deploy into a country to save homosexuals from being persecuted if they aren't being given their "universal rights"?
- If a woman doesn't fit on an ODA because the ODA has 10 alpha males on it- do we get rid of the 10 alpha males and keep the 1 woman? Or, if the woman just is a douche-bag- will we be able to get rid of her like we do guys- or will we be stuck with douche-bag women?

These kinds of questions and discussions make me wonder how much longer traditional alpha males will continue to volunteer to join our Army and fight overseas... for what?? Increasingly America is not about freedom--- it is about equality of outcome and social justice- and glorifying people like the Kardashians... do we fight no matter what the political elite are doing/pushing in this country? Will you sacrifice yourself for the progressive agenda? So that some kid overseas can have the same rights your kids have--- the right to chemically change themselves into a different sex and demand that everyone ignore their biology? The right to be offended at anything and everything if you are of a certain group? The right to payments or free things if you are of a certain group? The right to turn hard work and competence into evil things?

[Unique Calling]

Excellent summary and points, Baila...

[Ret10Echo]

Serious, yet tongue-in-cheek.

If you are a fan of PJ O'Rourke....this posted on BBC

Most of Bernie's support comes from people who weren't born when his ideas were in vogue. They're too young to know that what Bernie says may sound like it makes sense during the dorm room bull session, but sooner or later you have to put the bong down and exhale.

[SF-TX]

Liked this line from PJ O'Rourke:

Marco Rubio may emerge as the moderate Republican choice. He has a couple of things going for him.

Rubio is a Washington "outsider". Well, actually, he's a US senator. But he's missed a lot of senate votes, and I assume that was because, during the voting, Rubio was outside Washington. This counts.

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by Guymullins

I believe that this Sanders man is in fact a bigger danger than Obama was to America. In South Africa, we made the mistake of presuming that Communism was dead when the Berlin Wall fell. The people who held power then voted to go to a majority rule system that put the "old Communists" into the presidency and government. Although the Soviet Union was a thing of the past and China was becoming a Command Capitalist society, it didn't protect us from a small band of Communists who tirelessly wangled their way into the cabinet over the years without having to test themselves democratically. This small group work hard to bring about their dream of a New Democratic Revolution, which means the total breakdown of our capitalist system and replacing it with an entirely nationalised country, centrally controlled by card carrying Communists.
Despite having no successful models to point to, the old style Communists still hang on to their dreams and are prepared to totally destroy the country in order to realise them.
I hope America has not been lulled into believing that Communism is dead. It isn't and it lies ready to destroy you in seemingly benign creatures like Mr Sanders.

Is the infrastructure in place within the US government buracracy to make this possible with Bernie Sanders running the show?

[FlagDayNCO]

Ya know Paslode,

Except for the some positions where a Federal employee swears to defend and protect the Constitution, would there be much change to anything if our nation went Full Retard Socialist?

With the last seven years of going full steam ahead on changing Amerika, even those in positions of authority and capable of stopping it are now supportive of it.

For a period of time, I lived in Europe as a civilian, with no ties to the USA in anything I did. I was a "Foreign National" hosted by my then wife in her country. When I had to deal with anything government related, there was not much difference in the activities of that Socialist leaning nation.

Oh, there was one thing. The government employees over there seamed a lot nicer than here in the USA. Everyone knew the government provided certain services and the employees were a part of that. Over here, many government employees despise anyone that is not a government employee and are not shy about it.

[exsquid]

Bernie is a loser who is delusional. But at the very least, he is an honest loser who is honest about his delusions.

x/S

[Sdiver]

Here, if any of your friends/family etc. don't know what this country would look like IF Bernie is elected POTUS, just show them this ....

Venezuela Declares Another Emergency: It Has Run Out of Food

Venezuela’s opposition legislature has declared a “nutritional emergency,” proclaiming that the country simply does not have enough food to feed its population. The move comes after years of socialist rationing and shortages that forced millions to wait on lines lasting as long as six hours for a pint of milk, a bag of flour, or carton of cooking oil.

Opposition legislator Julio Borges announced the measure on Thursday, which would allow the legislature to push for more imports on basic food goods and inspect government-owned food companies to ensure they are meeting efficiency standards. “This will make corporations and expropriated lands produce food again, will simplify the process of national and foreign investment, and establish incentives for investors,” Borges promised.

Socialist party members are arguing that the decree goes beyond the scope of the power of the legislature and cannot override the executive decree President Nicolás Maduro put into motion in January, which declared an “economic emergency” and allowed the government to further intervene in private corporations. Venezuela’s Supreme Court extended the viability of the emergency decree this week, in a move many consider an attempt to keep the opposition legislature from asserting too much power over the food industry in Venezuela.

Socialist legislators also warned that “a food emergency would be an excuse for an American intervention.” While most economic experts attribute Venezuela’s dire economic situation to years of socialist mismanagement and, more recently, the international drop in crude oil prices, Venezuela’s government has long blamed the United States. Most recently, Maduro blamed American officials for allegedly prompting a violent supermarket riot in which the fight for bags of flour left one dead.

A recent report by the Spanish newspaper ABC highlights the struggle the average Venezuelan endures to acquire basic goods like butter, oil, and flour. “Five hours in line to buy a chicken; kicks, pushes, and blows of all kinds to be one of the fortunate ones to enter the supermarket and get away with a bag of flour or rice, basic goods that Venezuela does not have available to everyone, unfortunately.” It notes that many Venezuelans have used their cell phones to take videos of the violence now common in supermarkets:

The situation grew so dire that, in January 2015, reports began surfacing of professional “line-sitters“: individuals who, for a price, would wait in a supermarket line and buy you the little your ration card could afford.

The socialist government has proposed few solutions to this crisis. Last month, President Maduro insisted that those struggling to find basic foods should develop urban farming skills, claiming that all the eggs eaten in his household come from chickens he and First Lady Cilia Flores own.

Borges, the opposition legislator at the forefront of the new emergency initiative, is demanding the National Assembly investigate government-held food corporations to ensure they are working efficiently. “We used to be a self-sufficient country, making basic products like white corn; today our arepas don’t have the pride of being Venezuelan, instead they are made with Mexican corn… we used to be self-sufficient on rice, and now we bring it in from the United States,” Borges lamented.

Socialist legislators are hoping to manipulate the initiative in the other direction, and use it to expand government control of private food enterprises. Legislator Héctor Rodríguez has insisted that the economic emergency “does absolutely nothing,” and the government should impose itself on private enterprises. Another socialist legislator, Ricardo Molina, is calling for the government to expropriate Polar, Venezuela’s largest private food corporation: “we have to intervene on private sector enterprises.”

Venezuela previously forced a Polar food distribution center in Caracas to shut down in July, putting 12,000 tons of food, six million liters of soft drinks, and 2,000 jobs at risk.

http://www.breitbart.com/national-se...n-out-of-food/

[GratefulCitizen]

Just saw a funny Bernie meme.
Can't upload the photo.

Shows a perplexed Bernie and the caption reads:
"Wait...are you telling me they redistributed my delegates to someone who didn't earn them?"


Socialism in action.

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by FlagDayNCO

Ya know Paslode,

Except for the some positions where a Federal employee swears to defend and protect the Constitution, would there be much change to anything if our nation went Full Retard Socialist?

I hate to say it, but it would seem all the bells and whistles are in place and the transition to full retard socialism would be as simple as changing a name plate.

When do the re-education camps come into play?

[Sdiver]

Originally Posted by Paslode

When do the re-education camps come into play?

They've been in play for decades now ...

Just look in any of your colleges in your area/state.

Now it's starting to "trickle down" into the High Schools, Middle Schools, and Elementary schools via common core.
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