02-23-2015, 14:12
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“President Obama, Do you really love America?
You know this young lad has got to be the son of an American Warrior.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUtirCf-RfU
(Hey Guy, is this your nephew? )
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02-23-2015, 16:23
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That young man has it spot on.
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02-23-2015, 17:27
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This kid may grow up to be the 2nd Black President.
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02-23-2015, 19:27
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This kid may grow up to be the 2nd Black President.
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No, Ben Carson will be the next black President! (I hope)
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02-24-2015, 15:02
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Sowell may not be any more articulate than that young man - but is generally worth a read.
Giuliani Versus Obama
Thomas Sowell | Feb 24, 2015
TownHall.com
The firestorm of denunciation of former New York mayor Rudolph Giuliani, for having said that he did not think Barack Obama loved America, is in one sense out of all proportion to that remark -- especially at a time when there are much bigger issues, including wars raging, terrorist atrocities and a nuclear Iran on the horizon.
Against that background of strife and dangers on the world stage, it may seem as if Barack Obama's feelings, or Rudolph Giuliani's opinion about those feelings, should not matter so much, especially when it is hard to know with certainty how anyone feels. Yet when someone is the leader of a great nation at a historic juncture, it is more than idle curiosity to know what drives him.
It is not clear what the basis was for so much outrage at Mayor Giuliani's opinion about President Obama. Was it that what Giuliani said was demonstrably false? Was it that Barack Obama is supposed to be considered innocent until proven guilty?
Anyone who simply looks at the factual evidence as to whether Obama loves America, or does not, will find remarkably little to suggest love and a large amount of evidence, over a long period of years, showing his constant close association with people fiercely hostile to this country. Jeremiah Wright was just one in a long series of such people.
Barack Obama's campaign promise to "fundamentally change the United States of America" hardly suggests love. Nor did his international speaking tour in 2009, telling foreign audiences that America was to blame for problems on the world stage.
President Obama's record in the White House has been more of the same. Among his earliest acts were offending our oldest and closest allies, Britain and Israel, and betraying the country's previous commitments to provide anti-missile defenses to Poland and the Czech Republic.
Obama's refusal to let Ukraine have weapons with which to defend itself.
Conceivably, these might all have been simply blunders. But such a string of blunders would require someone very stupid, and Barack Obama is by no means stupid. The net effect is that in Europe, the Middle East and Asia, America's allies and America's interests face far more setbacks and dangers today than when Obama took office.
His policies have been publicly criticized by two of his own former Secretaries of Defense, by two retired four-star generals who served during his administration, and a retired four-star admiral who also served in the Middle East during the Obama administration has called his policies "anti-American."
Some people who are denouncing former mayor Rudolph Giuliani seem to be saying that it is just not right to accuse a President of the United States of being unpatriotic. But when Barack Obama was a Senator, that is precisely what he said about President George W. Bush. Where was the outrage then?
If all else fails, critics of Mayor Giuliani can say that a man is entitled to be considered "innocent until proven guilty." But that principle applies in a court of law. Outside a court of law, there is no reason to presume anyone innocent until proven guilty. It is especially dangerous to presume a President of the United States -- any president -- innocent until proven guilty.
Whoever is president has the lives of hundreds of millions of Americans, and the fate of a nation, in his hands. It is those millions of people and that nation who deserve the benefit of the doubt. We need to err on the side of safety for the people and the country. Squeamish politeness to an individual cannot outweigh that.
We need to keep that in mind for the next president, and for all future presidents. We might have been better off if the question of Obama's patriotism had been raised before he was first elected. Never should we ignore so many red flag warnings again.
There is little that can be done about President Obama now, no matter what he does. Impeachment, even if it succeeded, would mean Joe Biden as president and riots across the country. It is hard to know which would be worse.
http://townhall.com/columnists/thoma...1231/page/full
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02-24-2015, 22:22
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...do you love America?
Siskel and Ebert love the entertainment industry, but they are pretty harsh critics when it comes to talking about movies and movie stars.
POTUS talking about the US comes across more like a movie critic tearing down a low budget horror flick than a member of the "I-Love-The-USA" fan club.
...does he love America? Who knows; he certainly does love politics and clearly clearly seems to enjoy criticizing the USA and lecturing the citizens.
Now, go "eat your peas" America
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02-24-2015, 22:32
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I believe that Obama loves campaigning, loves golf, loves Martha's Vineyard, loves community organizing...
...has got to have some love for Eric Holder, Lois Lerner, Valeri Jarret, Susan Rice, Jen Psaki and Hillary...
...loves mom jeans, long bike rides on the Cape, good ganja and lecturing the American people...but AMERICA...no...not so much...
Obama "loves" America by publicly criticizing her, humiliating her, and blaming her...not unlike many abusers in an intimate relationship. And, Obama's supporters (they come from all walks of life) can't condemn him...they "love" him...they may even sense that he is wrong...but "he can do better..." and some will loose powerful friends and others be cut off from financial support if they condemn the abuse.
More importantly, most of the main stream media have been the ultimate enablers in propping up this empty suit of a president...and "lover" of America.
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02-24-2015, 22:43
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I believe Obama loves Obama. I doubt he's capable of loving anything else. I also believe he despises anything that might be construed as American "exceptionalism" and he's more than willing to destroy everything the founding fathers stood for to advance a Marxist/statist agenda and drag America down to a (greatly) reduced stature on the world stage. I think history will eventually validate me. (I'm not holding my breath that it will happen in my lifetime; especially given the quality of what passes for historical analysis today.)
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02-25-2015, 07:35
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I beleive he loves communism and that he could care less about the land mass that is under his feet or the name of that land mass. The "fundamental transformation" speech was his indicator of what his first love is. He may love the USA (land under his feet), as long as it is a communist state. At present, I don't think he likes it much. His wife also relayed that same sentiment. She can finally love the country because it is getting changed into the communist state they desire.
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02-25-2015, 10:49
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I had not see the Giuliani vid causing the recent hub bub posted yet - it might be of interest and fits here as well as anywhere.
Peregrino nailed it with his signature line and observation of Obama as a narcissist. Obama's communist/statist tendencies also cannot be denied. Hat tip miclo18d.
Giuliani, in the vid at link below, rightly points out Obama's propensity to defend Islam and most of the mainstream media's abject failure to question the president, his policies and motivations.
"Raging Rudy Giuliani Destroys Obama's Policies on Islamism and Iran, Part 1 of 2"
WesternFreePress
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E0hUtumtQpA
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02-25-2015, 12:56
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I beleive he loves communism and that he could care less about the land mass that is under his feet or the name of that land mass. The "fundamental transformation" speech was his indicator of what his first love is. He may love the USA (land under his feet), as long as it is a communist state. At present, I don't think he likes it much. His wife also relayed that same sentiment. She can finally love the country because it is getting changed into the communist state they desire.
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Exactly. As so many on here have been stating for some time.
Liberal/progressive/socialist/Marxist/communist
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02-25-2015, 14:39
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We need to keep that in mind for the next president, and for all future presidents. We might have been better off if the question of Obama's patriotism had been raised before he was first elected. Never should we ignore so many red flag warnings again.
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The information was there for anyone who wanted it. Sadly, they ALL fell prey to his charismatic personality and his oratory style so brilliant that it caused ladies to swoon and a shiver to run up Chris Mathew's leg.
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02-25-2015, 15:01
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Originally Posted by Peregrino
I believe Obama loves Obama. I doubt he's capable of loving anything else. I also believe he despises anything that might be construed as American "exceptionalism" and he's more than willing to destroy everything the founding fathers stood for to advance a Marxist/statist agenda and drag America down to a (greatly) reduced stature on the world stage. I think history will eventually validate me. (I'm not holding my breath that it will happen in my lifetime; especially given the quality of what passes for historical analysis today.)
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Agree 110% Sir!!! O loves O, and that is about it! America? Yeah right.
And, HAND: Just remember, not All Ladies!!!
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02-25-2015, 17:19
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The information was there for anyone who wanted it. Sadly, they ALL fell prey to his charismatic personality and his oratory style so brilliant that it caused ladies to swoon and a shiver to run up Chris Mathew's leg.
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There are none so blind as those who will not see...
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02-25-2015, 17:50
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