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Old 04-01-2019, 10:39   #16
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Oh, the humanity!
Thanks for that; and Box' clarification above. It's clear I need a refresher. I will cue up Donovan's Reef, followed immediately by McClintock! to insure I have a full grasp of this serial miscreant.
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Old 04-01-2019, 11:15   #17
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Thanks for that; and Box' clarification above. It's clear I need a refresher. I will cue up Donovan's Reef, followed immediately by McClintock! to insure I have a full grasp of this serial miscreant.
Ha, I was just going to add the movie McLintock! when John Wayne's character chased Maureen O'Hara around the streets of the town dressed in her corset/slip and then in only her white panty bloomers. That's just total exploitation of women, and mind you he even turned her over his knee and spanked her derriere with a coal scuttle shovel .....that's abuse, plain and simple. We should have been parading in the streets with our Vagina Hats on. It's sexist, For Shame Mr. Wayne.....LOL.....
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John Wayne is tame and mild mannered compared to any early (before Timothy Dalton) James Bond character.
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...just for good measure, sit down and watch The Conqueror and you can can cultural appropriation to the list of modern day social missteps.


As punishment for my years of fan support to the late-great John Wayne, I will be donating $1,259.99 to one of my favorite charities (Winchester Repeating Arms) to secure a Model 1892 Large Loop Carbine. By sacrificing my hard earned dollars for such a frivolous purchase, I will be preventing an unsuspecting victim of the gun crazy consumer based Americana economy from being "saddled" with a replica firearm that might otherwise invoke the memory of John Wayne.

My intent is to disrespect this firearm by slowly destroying it over a long period of time by repeatedly firing thousands of rounds of lead bullets through it. To add insult to injury, I will take time out of my weekends to travel to the outskirts of town where I will be far away from the rank and file. My coup de gras of disrespect for this disgusting symbol of Americas socially unacceptable cowboy history will be periodically using dirty rags to smear random types of oil and grease across the entire surface of this evil remnant of toxic masculinity.
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Old 04-01-2019, 12:00   #20
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As punishment for my years of fan support to the late-great John Wayne, I will be donating $1,259.99 to one of my favorite charities (Winchester Repeating Arms) to secure a Model 1892 Large Loop Carbine. By sacrificing my hard earned dollars for such a frivolous purchase, I will be preventing an unsuspecting victim of the gun crazy consumer based Americana economy from being "saddled" with a replica firearm that might otherwise invoke the memory of John Wayne.

My intent is to disrespect this firearm by slowly destroying it over a long period of time by repeatedly firing thousands of rounds of lead bullets through it. To add insult to injury, I will take time out of my weekends to travel to the outskirts of town where I will be far away from the rank and file. My coup de gras of disrespect for this disgusting symbol of Americas socially unacceptable cowboy history will be periodically using dirty rags to smear random types of oil and grease across the entire surface of this evil remnant of toxic masculinity.
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Old 04-01-2019, 14:29   #21
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Enterainment ?

John Wayne was an actor who portrayed characters written by screenwriters that were made into movies and produced by Hollyweird Executives to 1. Make Money and 2. Advance their social-political view to the target audience.
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Old 04-01-2019, 16:42   #22
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John Wayne was an actor who portrayed characters written by screenwriters that were made into movies and produced by Hollyweird Executives to 1. Make Money and 2. Advance their social-political view to the target audience.
John Wayne was the Dude playing the Dude that every dude between 7 and 27 wanted to be when they grew up even though he was the Dude who never actually served his country in the military and went on to become a war hero in the eyes of the world.
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John Wayne was the Dude playing the Dude that every dude between 7 and 27 wanted to be when they grew up even though he was the Dude who never actually served his country in the military and went on to become a war hero in the eyes of the world.
Well, he was 34 on 7 Dec '41 and had a family deferment. He wrote several times to John Ford to join his unit but was denied. Ford was a Commander in the U.S. Navy Reserve in the OSS (the Office of Strategic Services photographic unit - the film unit that made documentaries for the Navy. He was on Midway during the Battle of Midway and filmed it as it happened and won an Academy Award for it.) Duke tried and failed. The war films were his way of bringing stories of the war to the people.
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I’m not knocking the Duke. I don’t feel shame or disrespect for any human smart or lucky enough to avoid dying for their country in war but, have tremendous respect for those who did serve...even Elvis who I don’t have much respect for otherwise.
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I believe the thing to keep in mind is what this kind of action represents. People can disagree on whether a cultural icon is an icon - a systematic attempt to obliterate evidence of those icons and deny history, what that period represents & those who were in it is something else.
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Sergeant Major...freeze...slowly take the Asian Cut jeans off and place them carefully on the ground. Proper circulation is important, we have some Carhartt Pants here, for yours and all our sakes. Overwatch...out
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Its a gosh darned commie plot to deconstruct America - damned dope smoking tree hugging little boy kissing leftist sympathizers all need to be tarred and feathered.
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I believe the thing to keep in mind is what this kind of action represents. People can disagree on whether a cultural icon is an icon - a systematic attempt to obliterate evidence of those icons and deny history, what that period represents & those who were in it is something else.
It’s not something else; it’s everything!

Today’s young adults and those still attending upper levels of the liberal education establishment referred to as “academia” have either not been taught ‘history’ at all, or have been taught an alternative history that fits a narrative not based on context given to the time period or facts.

It’s a damned shame too, because so many of these people will repeat the mistakes that history was supposed to teach them.

The acute far-left shift in the Democratic Party, the recent rise in feminism and the return of fascism seen in groups like Antifa and BLM are all relevant to the movement began in the late ‘60s. These are the professors right now poisoning the minds of our youth. These young people will be a wasted generation that will cause great harm and destruction to American society. If we let them succeed then the adults still standing in the room failed. Every time one of these ‘adults’ allowing this generation “X”/Millennial” to tear down a statue, rename a building or destroy an institution they are destroying the very fabric of what America is. Which until recently was still a beacon of freedom in the world. An idea rightfully or wrongfully created by Hollywood movies portraying strength, honor, integrity and unity.

Just as these anti-American misfits (a minority group of privileged white people born to the ‘greatest generation’ and came of age smoking pot and doing drugs in the late ‘60s blossomed) they have infiltrated our government, our military and academia to promote their hate of the American experience that people like John Wayne, John Ford, James Stewart, Cary Grant, Audie Murphy, Clint Eastwood, Charlton Heston, and so many other strong confident male role models were such a big part of making. Today they are all “toxic-males” and should torn down and discarded like old newspapers. Sad really!
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Old 04-02-2019, 12:27   #29
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It’s not something else; it’s everything!

Today’s young adults and those still attending upper levels of the liberal education establishment referred to as “academia” have either not been taught ‘history’ at all, or have been taught an alternative history that fits a narrative not based on context given to the time period or facts.

It’s a damned shame too, because so many of these people will repeat the mistakes that history was supposed to teach them.

The acute far-left shift in the Democratic Party, the recent rise in feminism and the return of fascism seen in groups like Antifa and BLM are all relevant to the movement began in the late ‘60s. These are the professors right now poisoning the minds of our youth. These young people will be a wasted generation that will cause great harm and destruction to American society. If we let them succeed then the adults still standing in the room failed. Every time one of these ‘adults’ allowing this generation “X”/Millennial” to tear down a statue, rename a building or destroy an institution they are destroying the very fabric of what America is. Which until recently was still a beacon of freedom in the world. An idea rightfully or wrongfully created by Hollywood movies portraying strength, honor, integrity and unity.

Just as these anti-American misfits (a minority group of privileged white people born to the ‘greatest generation’ and came of age smoking pot and doing drugs in the late ‘60s blossomed) they have infiltrated our government, our military and academia to promote their hate of the American experience that people like John Wayne, John Ford, James Stewart, Cary Grant, Audie Murphy, Clint Eastwood, Charlton Heston, and so many other strong confident male role models were such a big part of making. Today they are all “toxic-males” and should torn down and discarded like old newspapers. Sad really!
Well, on the other hand - there is an upside. If all you said being the case, a target rich environment is being created. If the cultural divide ever gets kinetic we won't have to expend the energy tracking the enemy- IIRC that can be downright exhausting The situation could evolve to the point that us VFOG's need only sit on the front porch locked and loaded.
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Old 04-02-2019, 20:01   #30
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It’s not something else; it’s everything!
We're actually in agreement. I'll use fewer words:
Disagreement RE who's the greatest movie hero is a discussion.
Attempts to obliterate a culture's history is evil. Shoot them.
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